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From Chris Martin <windo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Allow RC votes to carry over at any point in the release process
Date Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:20:41 GMT
Yeah, I think having the proposed language would help me cast a vote.  I
feel Justin brings up a good thought. Maybe we'd say that PMC votes cannot
carry over their votes since there was a severe issue with the previous RC?

Here's a suggested change block to the 'less-RC' [1] wiki page in the "RC
Cycle" section (changes in bold):

"At this stage only issues with significant negative impact, such as
problems with signatures, previously undiscovered licensing error, a
security issue, or a bug that will hit a lot of users should cause the RM
to discard the RC.  *Because of the severity of the issue, PMC votes cannot
be carried over to the new RC.  Other votes can be carried over at the
request of the votee.  Other issues* should have been brought up during the
testing phase, and any changes/fixes related to those issues should go into
develop branch for the next release."

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/The+%27less-RC%27+process

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil> wrote:

> Thank you for your feedback.  Always good to get an community opinion with
> an outside perspective.
>
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Nicholson [mailto:ascensionsystems@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:25 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Allow RC votes to carry over at any point in the
> release process
>
> I just have to say as a new member here looking to possibly get involved,
> that all of this back and forth arguing over the release process and all
> the terror of the legality of changing things really makes for a terrible
> first impression. I'm pretty discouraged about any participation. Between
> the bickering, nobody noticed a frustrated subscriber demanding to be taken
> off the dev list. (spare one person helping him do so)
>
> So yeah, basically here is my first impression of being involved in flex.
> Quite a few people really dislike the release manager, people are terrified
> of the legal implications of mistakes (which makes me terrified to touch
> and use the source) and many of the leads here seem to double as adobe
> employees... which makes me feel that this is still very heavily controlled
> and owned by adobe for their own corporate interests.
>
> So there's my first impression. I'm not claiming these are facts, they're
> an impression. Just thought you guys would care for the insight into how
> your community is developing around this project and why at least 2 people
> are looking at running away from the mailing list today.
>

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