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From Avi Kessner <akess...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: International English
Date Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:54:26 GMT
I don't have an opinion on this general topic one way or another (I prefer
using British English spelling, but I was raised on American English)

However regarding class names...  Class names are class names.  If Adobe
for the past 10-15 years had a class named BakgroundColorz, BakgroundImagez
and BakspaceControllerz,  I would not advocate changing the class name just
so its is spelled correctly after so many years of it being another way.  I
don't see the point in that.  Class names are class names, they are not
words which require correct spelling.  Though they do require consistent
spelling and usage.

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On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 11/21/14, 11:53 PM, "Justin Mclean" <justin@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >> IMO, we should not be trying to decide between US and Int’l English.
> >
> >And nor should we be using US English for an international audience given
> >who are the majority of our users.
>
> If you agree that we should use backgroundColor, color, and ColorPicker,
> doesn’t that count as US English?
>
> IMO, we should not be changing US English words to Int’l English words.
> Let’s just find words that work for both, and if we can’t, maybe use both
> terms.  But I think “color” should stay as “color”.
>
> So far nobody has stepped up to support your idea of changing US English
> words to Intl English so until that happens I’m not sure it is worth
> continuing the debate.  I’d say that the community’s energy is better
> spent on localizing.
>
> >
> >> For example, I don’t know if our documentation actually contains the
> >> phrase “your email address is missing a period”,
> >
> >It's doesn't but our resource files did, and that was handled by the
> >locales, I don't think we need to go than the path of making different
> >versions of the release notes / readme however. The differences are
> >reasonable minor.
>
> Hold on a second. Are we debating a theoretical?  Can you supply 3
> examples of words that you want changed?
>
> >
> >> Before we go off spending energy rewriting the doc, I would like to see
> >> evidence that folks are finding it confusing and that some change is
> >>going
> >> to make a difference.  I don’t recall very many JIRA issues about
> >> confusing documentation or threads on the mailing list.
> >
> >Over the years I've had numerous people complained to me about this, but
> >them I'm based outside the US and the issue is a lot more visible there.
>
> Get them to complain on the list or in JIRA so we can try to find words
> that are “neutral”.
>
> >
> >>  And thus, I would not be in favor of our default documentation saying
> >>things like “Use
> >> the ColorPicker to select a colour”.
> >
> >I don't see any problem with that, it's actually correct.
>
> It’s not correct in the US.  Again, let’s find a way to localize our
> documentation so we don’t have to choose one over the other.  In the
> bigger picture we want to localize to non-English languages as well.
>
> >
> >> We’ve localized the Installer
> >
> >Well some of it. The ant for air component isn't localise, so you get a
> >mix of local language and US english in the install log.
>
> Actually, it looks to me that ant_on_air does support locales.  You
> checked in the en_AU file into Git.   I hadn’t realized it until now, but
> the Installer isn’t linking in those files.
>
> >
> >> Do we know if any other Apache projects localize all of their content?
> >
> >A lot do - Open Office be probably the best example, but it's audience is
> >different to ours.
>
> Are you willing to do the homework on how these other projects do their
> localization and whether we can leverage that somehow?
>
> -Alex
>
>

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