Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 540271135A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59879 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2014 05:25:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 59839 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2014 05:25:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 59828 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jul 2014 05:25:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 207.46.163.183 as permitted sender) Received: from [207.46.163.183] (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (207.46.163.183) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:53 +0000 Received: from BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.141.95.147) by BL2PR02MB499.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.141.95.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.990.7; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:26 +0000 Received: from BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.95.147]) by BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.95.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0990.007; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:26 +0000 From: Alex Harui To: "dev@flex.apache.org" Subject: Re: 'Flex Presentation' app on Google Play Thread-Topic: 'Flex Presentation' app on Google Play Thread-Index: AQHPi4XkPld7LHssWE2jbvIuEOHYCpt3/DaAgAADFYCAAAk7gIAAGBqAgAAM4QCAADxygIAAEfWA//+sqICAMUatAIAATLOA Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 05:25:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.2.140509 x-originating-ip: [63.229.16.99] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0279B3DD0D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(6009001)(24454002)(53754006)(51704005)(52604005)(479174003)(377454003)(189002)(199002)(21056001)(107886001)(107046002)(2351001)(19580395003)(46102001)(101416001)(64706001)(50986999)(76176999)(76482001)(99396002)(36756003)(110136001)(92566001)(85852003)(66066001)(20776003)(83072002)(2656002)(80022001)(86362001)(92726001)(87936001)(81342001)(81542001)(77982001)(19580405001)(83322001)(15974865002)(74502001)(74662001)(31966008)(79102001)(93886003)(83506001)(85306003)(54356999)(95666004)(99286002)(4396001)(106356001)(106116001)(105586002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BL2PR02MB499;H:BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6ED29139C4D25B41B838E4C3494B90AB@namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: adobe.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Ah, thanks for reminding me. Nobody responded with any other comments. I'll wait another day before emailing them. -Alex On 7/20/14 10:50 AM, "Stephane Beladaci" wrote: >Hi Everyone > >I'm curious to know what is the outcome regarding that friendly email. For >once that someone is usong a blatant copy of the Flex logo and name, for >commercial purpose, with no disclaimer, I am very surprised that you guys >are not more aggressive especially after all the hard time given Made in >Flex. If you do not do anything in the case it will dilute the brand and >make harder for you to reinforce your intellectual property if this >happens >again. > >Sincerely, >Stephane >On Jun 19, 2014 9:22 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > >> I'm not sure what "enforce" means. Maybe we need to agree on what we >>want >> to see changed. >> >> -Personally, I'm not in favor of letting him use the blue icon. >> -I am ok with the product name "Flex Presentation" >> -We want the Google Play store Description to start with "Flex( ) >> Presentation", but I'm ok with the not being in the title. (My email >> client is inserting an actual trademark symbol when ever I type capital >>T >> and capital M together. It may not come through when you read it. >> -We want the Apache attribution at the end of the description >> -We want his site to use the symbol after Flex in the description >> -We want his site to have the Apache attribution at the bottom. >> >> Anything else? >> >> >> On 6/19/14 7:19 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >> >> >You said "not enforce a change." I don't agree with that. I do agree >>with >> >your suggested approach method (email first, if no action, then >>consider >> >options). >> > >> >EdB >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Justin Mclean >> >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> > If a bricks and mortar - or rather: mud brick - store would use a >>blue >> >> > version of the Adobe logo and call itself "the adobe photo shoppe", >> >>would >> >> > that be an infraction on the logo and trademark of Adobe Photoshop? >> >>I'm >> >> > sure Adobe's lawyers would think so. >> >> That certainly would but that not quite the case here. IMO a polite >> >>email >> >> first and then if no action we consider what to do next. >> >> >> >> Justin >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Ix Multimedia Software >> > >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27 >> >3521 VB Utrecht >> > >> >T. 06-51952295 >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl >> >>