Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39E5B1070E for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87027 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2014 15:32:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 86991 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2014 15:32:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 86981 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jun 2014 15:32:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:32:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.128.171] (HELO mail-ve0-f171.google.com) (209.85.128.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:32:01 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f171.google.com with SMTP id oz11so7132239veb.16 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6exOAMTtdm0HKJc8XQ2X59sAYYNlHm2NdkOHkU1l95A=; b=gCXj2EfFy9L8SgasBJObMBDV62lBMR7vEWglW5T10WnhnBS0gZ+xvY1xvp4VucCfBN qmdn0XkiDmpWL/62MQUDmzbHSfQ4ldhGwL8QOT1zXhQvQfKBJy/M6R/IFadjp5tTWlnm SYWKuTThEqDQ4W4OUoiypKYLABPowSiLO5V1ECtYbU5bTgl4LN+yKrVnzU/0DsswmH7m HY3hEhvIUQZqpK+0zIlUorae110JmuD88yGLO93PMbPJRGzVzMhhgLqlvB5B9pQgsDus TfJmIueVmfJRBIb0xmPWxzIJoZFIALi9p7iTuQ5qGu2nt4+4KsRfsRDyxIqFYF7Qck0c wG/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmRVHnRfO7w8X8x3GqQYFP8VYRvzw1GW5nelvWy8fz/zucthCBMflLQrVcbhS7dwnkMlGOE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.249.198 with SMTP id ml6mr8828177vcb.36.1401809500599; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.88.68 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 08:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [35.8.29.149] In-Reply-To: References: <1401795609486-37968.post@n4.nabble.com> <1401796253810-37969.post@n4.nabble.com> <1401797186535-37970.post@n4.nabble.com> <1401800688592-37973.post@n4.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:31:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski To: dev@flex.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01182ebe538f4a04faf03513 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e01182ebe538f4a04faf03513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrei, There was a lengthy discussion at the 360|Flex conference a few weeks ago about Adobe open-sourcing the player. It won't happen. The Flash Player is essentially the Red Tamerian project (open source) https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/ with a whole slew of properiety, licensed codecs, tools and other addins. Things like video playback, text rendering, etc. are all things that Adobe has licensed from others that would prevent them from open-sourcing the player itself. They've already open-sourced the VM. -Nick On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Me.Com wrote: > I hate people who write opinionated articles without bothering to learn > anything about the subject. Looks like Matt Baxter-Reynolds is one of the= m. > But then=E2=80=A6 I can not remember when I read anything really good at = zdnet=E2=80=A6 so > it all fit together. > > Back to original idea - my only question is why bother? Personally I > think the only thing we (flash developers) should be asking for - is for > Adobe to open source the player. As of now - player is the weakest link a= nd > the one which is beyond the rich of open source community. > > Just my $0.02 > > -- > Me.Com > Sent with Airmail > > On June 3, 2014 at 16:19:07 , Erik de Bruin (erik@ixsoftware.nl) wrote: > > > > > > May I ask why you said "Technologically no"? > > > > > > > Because Swift sucks > > < > > > http://www.zdnet.com/apples-new-swift-development-language-highlights-the= -companys-worst-side-7000030150/ > > > > > > This is not a forum to aid in the spreading of FUD. All this guy has to s= ay > about Swift is that it sucks because it doesn't allow you to develop > Android apps... If a tool sucks because it doesn't support each and every > fragmented mobile OS out there, it seems to me they all suck. > > EdB > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > --089e01182ebe538f4a04faf03513--