Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ABED11E65 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87432 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2014 09:10:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 87394 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2014 09:10:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 87383 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jun 2014 09:10:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:10:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.212.182] (HELO mail-wi0-f182.google.com) (209.85.212.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:10:42 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id bs8so5406730wib.3 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=ZbAe10LvtckJD5IChr556wM8vK36Yl/g9EtyG5WcLvI=; b=fp0mysigez4ULfaB3LCSSwOx4eXzYFfKRm9pFaBG3znO+1q7RMCv2csZXAxGkafi98 JMMZCTF/cwBlIpxEzX5cGIb18TDq282BiysFRW7w4m60oNG6WJewMpNGlrjvhFc3SQlO DugPo2RFEkQmiHqanePWmRzh7bPsUUDA1hjMXTnRmez8CHyLEQ9XTqKkkaDyuh+hx9eJ rtRonO27RkUPkSx7T6J1dpUEwCDjb7EQng8xAfHSyDZHPj/eKv8H8DKkCIVLcko/73gd JLUtz3ieRGGRYqcAS5VJd3cSNL5Xwqo7AUTKwBF7BzsyNFWIsocxer6/DIWDcVzSIbjD b6kg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlDwWcT5M/m7ot0cD3CQsfllSOm2AXbXN8RA6Ftr5Zr+iIK9JCX4Nwkpcx1ALlo6ssTJpX0 X-Received: by 10.194.110.100 with SMTP id hz4mr35701447wjb.65.1402996220735; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justins-mbp-3.home (host5-81-223-60.range5-81.btcentralplus.com. [5.81.223.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vp5sm22395128wjc.31.2014.06.17.02.10.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Mclean Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4038E111-B445-4C80-B333-453CF87A4E45" Message-Id: <3A92556E-B204-4059-8365-10F1520DF69B@classsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache FlexJS 0.0.2 RC1 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:10:17 +0100 References: <77694515-CB2D-46AD-8F1E-BB094214448A@classsoftware.com> To: dev@flex.apache.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_4038E111-B445-4C80-B333-453CF87A4E45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HI, > Link to the discussion, please? Been several - they are quite long - the 3rd one is probably the most = relevant. 1. = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%3c= CAAS6=3D7jTVyaDhwepAqob-=3D83DxJ-uaMS9GyG5j5XdHYybvAtGQ@mail.gmail.com%3e = 2.http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%= 3cCAAS6=3D7hMsjJ1ATztOyeE_QNdPpQvvsxmx58vWrCqug1po2OGEQ@mail.gmail.com%3e 3. = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%3c= CAOFYJNaqACY-JXUesx-V0PnsiCCkfVo_xKdEMO-N5Nt7Y_JTFQ@mail.gmail.com%3e A release is "a legal act guarded by responsible oversight" [1] and = automating that means we lose the oversight, and "until the policy is = changed, PMCs and RMs are expected and *required* to comply." [2]. Worse = case the board will do this [3]. The script are certainly useful as a double check but IMO should not be = use used as the sole reason to vote +1. At the very least we need to = have a discussion re this method of checking release and a VOTE on it = before introducing it. Given the legal ramifications (and our limited = legal understanding) IMO we should err of the side of caution. =20 Thanks, Justin 1. = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%3c= 6F8EDB3F-12C5-4D0C-A379-E9AB4F99F391@jaguNET.com%3e 2. = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%3c= 47681A1F-924F-496F-8209-46EF3EDB7F02@jaguNET.com%3e 3. = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201405.mbox/%3c= 80083BE7-9F6C-43DC-A97F-9AED674C9B98@jaguNET.com%3e --Apple-Mail=_4038E111-B445-4C80-B333-453CF87A4E45--