Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35EBD10CB0 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56595 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2014 05:50:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 56187 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2014 05:50:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 56139 invoked by uid 99); 15 Apr 2014 05:50:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:50:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of justinmclean@me.com designates 17.158.232.236 as permitted sender) Received: from [17.158.232.236] (HELO nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com) (17.158.232.236) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:50:11 +0000 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([202.159.172.122]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N4200F9C5IXAQ50@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for dev@flex.apache.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:49:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [LAZY] Apache Flex and 360|Flex shirts From: Justin Mclean In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:49:44 +1000 Message-id: <0445B418-9F6B-44AC-AFFB-9B1DAB408C5F@me.com> References: <534C9D92.7070707@gmail.com> To: dev@flex.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaGxEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0bdR1yaxl4c wcZbBofHhNHHBEKWFwXGQQaBB0HTUsdEkhJHEwFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYU1 HGnIRCkxGF2xraxEKQ1oXGBoYBBsfEwQbHRgEGxgYEQpCRhdpHgUTZWNvYEBuRxEKQkUXaR0FW 3MTa1MTfFkRCkJOF2xwYHlAHWJSaRpiEQpCTBdpaGgFUh5mWGFMfBEKQmwXZRNgUx9obmdwTEA RCkJAF2JsU0keUm9Tb3p/EQpCWBdsXWIfex1dGBNefxEKcGgXbhtSRltTHkdZXxwRCnBoF2lQc BlQYWMSAXJ4EQpwaBdnQ1l7XV56ZERdGBEKcGgXbkJNUFJrXUscYEcRCnBoF2BQYn14bh5dcGF rEQpwbBdoYltHGnxcbmBvcxE= X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-04-14_01:2014-04-14,2014-04-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1404150095 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, Just my 2 cents and probably a little off topic. > So, the economics have to change. Some of you are employed by companies > that have saved significant time and money by using Flex. Some of you are > independent consultants who are hopefully at least surviving and longing > for days past when Flex gigs were more plentiful. While there may be less Flex work about there are also less experienced Flex developers so in some cases Flex gigs may actually be more plentiful - especially if you have good experience with Apache Flex. And being a committer, PMC member or release manager probably doesn't hurt. > My goal is to do what I can to try to increase demand for Flex mostly via FlexJS. No t everyone wants to cross compile to JS and you can use AIR to target desktop and mobile quite well for most types of applications, but I'm hoping that having that option will attract new developers who wouldn't otherwise use Flex. > Of course, I'd also love to have companies donate developer time as well. That what I'd like to see more of. Of the 5000+ users who installed 4.12.0 there must be a few who can contribute back to the project who aren't currently. > And there is a similar need for a change in the economics for the 360|Flex > conference. It will likely continue to be the only Flex-only conference > and one of the few times you can discuss things with me in person. There's quite a few other PMC and committers and experienced Flex developers going to 360 Flex as well. If you're developing Flex application there's really no reason not to go :-) Thanks, Justin