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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC6
Date Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:23:46 GMT
I put dmg and exe files here: http://people.apache.org/~aharui/Installer/

These versions will let you see how the "show log for early failure" looks
like.  Just install the installer (but don't run it yet), unplug from the
internet, then run it.

There are many possible failure cases and I wouldn't be surprised if I
didn't get all of them.  My main goal was to tackle errors before the
progress squares show up.  The en_US properties are now embedded so the
early errors will not be localized.

I'm not going to post an RC7 unless folks say this is ok, or unless nobody
responds.

-Alex

On 3/10/14 12:13 PM, "Alex Harui" <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

>I don't think this is going to work.  If I bake in en_US, the english
>strings will appear for a bit before the localized strings appear.
>
>I think I'll try to only load co-packaged en_US strings if something goes
>wrong in the early stages.
>
>-Alex
>
>On 3/10/14 11:57 AM, "Alex Harui" <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, I will try embedding en_US.properties.
>>
>>On 3/10/14 11:52 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsellem@systar.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>I propose that we ship the entire en_US with the app.
>>>
>>>That sounds like a good compromise (between all locales downloaded and
>>>all locales embedded)
>>>
>>>I think that we can assume that the target "audience" for the installer
>>>are developers, so they have enough knowledge of English to understand
>>>simple error messages.
>>>
>>>Falling back to the English embedded locale in case something goes wrong
>>>early would be a good option.
>>>
>>>
>>>Maurice  
>>>
>>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>>De : omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] De la part de
>>>OmPrakash
>>>Muppirala
>>>Envoyé : lundi 10 mars 2014 19:42
>>>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>>>Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 -
>>>RC6
>>>
>>>On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/10/14 11:14 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosmallm@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> As currently written, we can fail before we get the localized
>>>>strings.
>>>> >> Also, there is very little chance that all of the current locales
>>>> >>will get  updated.  Some locales are already missing strings.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >I thought you mentioned that you are embedding en_US in the app?
>>>> Right now, just the "Install Log" and "Close" button labels.  Maybe it
>>>> is just me, but the odds that we'll fail this early seem really low.
>>>> Yes, there will be other blank labels in the app, but I'm having
>>>> trouble justifying the work of restoring the full en_US runtime locale
>>>> and then figuring out how to toss it and start anew when the
>>>> properties files get loaded.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The Installer is 2.3 MB on windows.  The en_US properties file is 9 KB.
>>>Embedding this whole file into the app will cause a negligible increase
>>>in the file size.  Also, I the chance that we will want to change the
>>>strings without pushing a release is extremely low.  I propose that we
>>>ship the entire en_US with the app.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> I considered replacing the privacy notice with an error message,
>>>> >>but it  looks like the code will still call the abort tracker, so
I
>>>> >>ruled out that  idea.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >Not sure what the error message label and abort tracker have to do
>>>> >with each other?  Also, if the installation failed, we should track
>>>>it, right?
>>>> To display an error message I need to find space in the UI to display
>>>> a message.  Again, I'm having trouble justifying re-designing the UI
>>>> for these scenarios and debugging layout issues and other visual
>>>> issues in subsequent Rcs.  There is already space in the UI to display
>>>> the privacy link, so I thought of repurposing that space, but like you
>>>> said, we should track this failure, so we shouldn't repurpose that
>>>>part
>>>>of the UI.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The tracker has nothing to do with the privacy link.  The tracker is a
>>>1x1 pixel html component that is not visible to the user.
>>>
>>>I am proposing adding a line just above the privacy link.  That will
>>>never be visible until there is an error in the first screen (installer
>>>config loading error, locale loading error, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Right now I'm leaning towards auto-displaying the log.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >What is the point of auto-displaying the log if the locales are not
>>>> >downloaded yet?  The console log will not have any useful error
>>>>message.
>>>> >At least, showing a hardcoded message in en_US might give users some
>>>> >clue as to what happened.
>>>> I hard coded a few more English strings for these low probability
>>>> scenarios so the log contains something useful.  I just tried it.  It
>>>> looks reasonable to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Okay, sounds reasonable.  I can spend some time on making the UI changes
>>>when I have time.  Feel free to leave it when you are satisfied.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Om
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>


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