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From Joseph Balderson <n...@joeflash.ca>
Subject Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal
Date Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:00:03 GMT
Shane from Apache Brand Management contacted me on Monday, their lawyers are
looking into making this happen. Thanks for your help Alex!

_______________________________________________________________________

Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca
Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book

Alex Harui wrote:
> We're still waiting on more information from trademarks.  Sunday was when
> I last heard from them last week, so I'm hoping we'll hear something today.
> 
> Thanks for being patient.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 1/12/14 1:32 AM, "Joseph Balderson" <news@joeflash.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Any news, Alex?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca
>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>
>> Joseph Balderson wrote:
>>> apacheflexexamples.com >>> a continuance of flexexamples.com by Peter
>>> DeHaan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca
>>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>>
>>> Stephane Beladaci wrote:
>>>> Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it
>>>> contain only
>>>> Flex or Apache Flex?
>>>>
>>>> Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related
>>>> to
>>>> Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark
>>>> disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it reads: "Apache Flex,
>>>> Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache
>>>> Software
>>>> Foundation".
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joseph Balderson [mailto:news@joeflash.ca]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:39 PM
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal
>>>>
>>>> Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of
>>>> the
>>>> future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed
>>>> above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is
>>>> going.
>>>> Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to
>>>> describe
>>>> the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my
>>>> behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the
>>>> trademark request submitted without my knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca
>>>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>>>
>>>> Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>> Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission.
>>>>> I 
>>>>> will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an
>>>>> unequivocal "no".  More discussion has to happen in private before a
>>>>> final ruling is made.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <news@joeflash.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list
>>>>>> to jbdesign@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would
be
>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> __
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer ::
>>>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 ::
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph Balderson wrote:
>>>>>>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained
in
>>>>>>> my formal request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache
>>>>>>> trademarks regarding this issue might not constitute "putting
our
>>>>>>> best foot forward" in having this use case approved. And since
I do
>>>>>>> not know the content of your initial communication to them on
my
>>>>>>> behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It would ease my mind
to
>>>>>>> know that Apache were aware of the contents of my proposal before
>>>>>>> reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send
them
>>>>>>> this information would be the wisest course of action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer ::
>>>>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 ::
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o.
>>>>>>>> I've already asked trademarks for their guidance on this
matter
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> they haven't responded yet.  I did see trademarks answer
another
>>>>>>>> email, but they may not be fully engaged and caught up on
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>> until Monday.
>>>>>>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've
read the
>>>>>>>> domain name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise
the
>>>>>>>> first response you get might just be a pointer to those documents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is pretty clear to me from those documents that you will
have
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> have a disclaimer on your site.
>>>>>>>>  IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those
>>>>>>>> documents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <news@joeflash.ca>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache.
Alex, if you
>>>>>>>>> would be so kind as to forward this on to the folks at
Apache
>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> January 3, 2014
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To Who It May Concern,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional
ActionScript
>>>>>>>>> 3.0 developer of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer
for 8
>>>>>>>>> years now as of January 2014.
>>>>>>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript
>>>>>>>>> developer, 
>>>>>>>>> an Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming
at
>>>>>>>>> Humber College in Toronto, a speaker at user groups,
and a
>>>>>>>>> professional tech writer. I have tech edited a number
of books by
>>>>>>>>> Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and in
>>>>>>>>> 2009 I
>>>>>>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional
Adobe
>>>>>>>>> Flex 3 by Wrox Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on
Amazon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to
Apache,
>>>>>>>>> good internet resources for Flex have fallen through
the cracks,
>>>>>>>>> namely Tour De Flex and flexexamples.com, both of which
have
>>>>>>>>> functioned as essential micro-tutorial resources for
the
>>>>>>>>> beginner, 
>>>>>>>>> a quick reference for the more experienced programmer,
and
>>>>>>>>> visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders.
>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and
wanting to
>>>>>>>>> help restore and promote the adoption of Flex for its
own sake, I
>>>>>>>>> have purchased the domain apacheflexexamples.com, with
the
>>>>>>>>> intention of turning it into a micro-tutorial site with
the same
>>>>>>>>> purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com.
>>>>>>>>> (An
>>>>>>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration
from
>>>>>>>>> Adobe to Apache in 2012 can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexample
>>>>>>>>> s.com
>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of
>>>>>>>>> apacheflexexamples.com
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> include:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials;
>>>>>>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph
Balderson
>>>>>>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page",
thus no
>>>>>>>>> code 
>>>>>>>>> repository or downloads of any kind will be necessary;
>>>>>>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex
will be
>>>>>>>>> used and indicated;
>>>>>>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued
on the
>>>>>>>>> site;
>>>>>>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged
to
>>>>>>>>> discuss the tutorials on the official users@flex.apache.org
list;
>>>>>>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact
the
>>>>>>>>> administrator
>>>>>>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or
problems
>>>>>>>>> specific to the examples which are non-specific to Flex
framework
>>>>>>>>> errata issues;
>>>>>>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will
be situated
>>>>>>>>> in a prominent location in the left or right column so
as to help
>>>>>>>>> users refer to official Apache Flex resources;
>>>>>>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache
websites,
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> disclaimer similar to what is currently used in book
titles and
>>>>>>>>> other publications will be indicated at the top of every
page,
>>>>>>>>> "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are trademarks of The
Apache
>>>>>>>>> Software Foundation. Used with permission. No endorsement
by The
>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of these
marks."
>>>>>>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit
on my
>>>>>>>>> part), nor any product reviews, endorsements or sales
of any kind
>>>>>>>>> will be permitted on the
>>>>>>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to
the Apache
>>>>>>>>> Flex framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as
an example)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer
willing or
>>>>>>>>> able to administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting
>>>>>>>>> frequency, I will commit in writing to donating the domain
and
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> site administration to the Apache Flex group.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready
to go
>>>>>>>>> prior to launch sometime in February of 2014. A private
beta will
>>>>>>>>> be issued, to be reviewed by the Apache Flex development
team
>>>>>>>>> (and 
>>>>>>>>> the legal department at Apache if such is
>>>>>>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with
the end
>>>>>>>>> result prior to launch. Once the site is launched, posting
>>>>>>>>> frequency will be as indicated above.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested
in
>>>>>>>>> conserving 
>>>>>>>>> the quality and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And
in order
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> help increase positive adoption of Apache Flex usage,
I have
>>>>>>>>> purchased this domain with the intent of continuing on
the work
>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>> the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter DeHaan at
>>>>>>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this
intent, I
>>>>>>>>> humbly request your permission to use the Apache trademark
in the
>>>>>>>>> domain name apacheflexexamples.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph Balderson
>>>>>>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer
>>>>>>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca
>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
>>>>>>>>>
> 
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