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From Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as>
Subject Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects
Date Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:35:13 GMT
Within the USA, if you do work-for-hire, the IP rights and everything
associated with it generally go to employer.  That is, unless you expressly
reserve those rights.

Every country is different.  Some of my customers are happy to have me tell
their story -- others don't want people to know who worked on it in the
background (or what technology is used).  Always best to check.

-Nick


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Erick Ghaumez <erick@rxlabz.com> wrote:

> Le 18 déc. 2013 à 17:45, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> a écrit :
>
> >
> >
> > On 12/18/13 7:00 AM, "Erick Ghaumez" <erick@rxlabz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I obviously understand these legal doubts, but IMHO for the use of this
> 3
> >> screenshots, it will be endless.
> >> What kind of permission can be legal ? Is there a template document
> >> somewhere ?
> >> I can ask to the M6Web's CTO ( M6Web is  the subsidiary company which is
> >> in charge of digital projects ), but will it be legally good enough ?
> >> Does Apache need a CEO or lawyer/notary validated document ?
> >> Plus, since M6 is a french Group, it will depends on french laws...
> >> I will tell them that I added 6play in the Apache Flex showcase list, if
> >> it¹s a problem for them I¹ll warn you. Does this sounds ok for you ?
> > Yes, contact whoever actually owns this work and notify them that you
> > would like to put their site on our showcase, and that you'll need to
> > copy/paste their permission into a public JIRA issue.  Then it is their
> > responsibility to make sure the right person authorizes it.  At Apache,
> we
> > have a VP Branding who would do that.  I don't know how big the owning
> > company is, but they should know who can sign for them.  Someone had to
> > authorize the contract that is paying you, so they know how signing
> > authority works.
>
> :) sure, they probably know how signing authority works, but i don’t.
> Sorry, i was maybe kind of naive to think I can just take some screenshots
> of my work and use it to try to promote the SDK I’d used to make it.
> Indeed, it’s my work, but not my property.
> As I’ve said, the owner is « big » TV group, my contract is with a
> subsidiary company in charge of digital projects. I don’t know if the one
> who signs my contract is legally authorized to give this permission. But if
> I understand, if he gives one, it becomes his responsibility ?
> I'll try to get one.
>
> Thanks
>
> >
> >>
> >> Erick
> >>
> >> Le 18 déc. 2013 à 15:33, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> We can ask on legal-discuss if you want to be certain, but I would
> guess
> >>> the answer is yes, we need permission from the owner.  But Erick is
> >>> probably not wrong about the taking of screenshots either.  My thought
> >>> experiment is this:  If I was hired to paint the outside of a TV studio
> >>> with a particular brand of paint, I think it is ok for folks to take
> >>> pictures of me doing that and not have to obfuscate the paint bucket
> >>> that
> >>> has the paint brand on it and post it on their facebook sites.  But
> that
> >>> doesn't mean the paint manufacturer as the right to say that TV studio
> >>> is
> >>> a customer on their website because that can sound like an endorsement.
> >>>
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>> On 12/18/13 5:12 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsellem@systar.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks, Eric,
> >>>> But Apache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for
> >>>> team
> >>>> advice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maurice
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : rx labz [mailto:rxlabz@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez
> >>>> Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39
> >>>> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>> Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> i'm working on this project, and since it's a public website, i think
> >>>> it's absolutly not illegal to display screenshots.
> >>>>
> >>>> Erick
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 18 déc. 2013 à 13:34, Maurice Amsellem
> >>>> <maurice.amsellem@systar.com> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few app submissions (eg. "6play"
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34005 ) are made by what
> >>>>> looks like developers sub-contracting for another company.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you think there is a legal issue to include these apps (eg. the
> >>>>> screenshots) without the permission of the owning company (m6 French
> >>>>> TV
> >>>>> channel).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maurice
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maurice Amsellem
> >>>>> SYSTAR R&D - BusinessBridgeFX
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Erick Ghaumez
> >> RX Labz [ Design & Développement ]
> >>
> >> erick@rxlabz.com
> >> 06 21 72 31 15
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> Erick Ghaumez
> RX Labz [ Design & Développement ]
>
> erick@rxlabz.com
> 06 21 72 31 15
>
>

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