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From: Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <dev@flex.apache.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:32:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Swiz Framework Donation
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Adobe sends PDFs to Apache of the manually signed grant form.  Saves trees
and all that. ;-)

On 11/12/13 12:38 AM, "Clint Modien" <cmodien@gmail.com> wrote:

>It's also possible (probable?) that he isn't following this thread=8A has
>anyone reached out to him via other channels?
>
>Alex=8A does apache require the inked copies on file or are printed digita=
l
>copies ok?
>
>Clint Modien
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>
>On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> If it were up to me (and it isn't) I wouldn't add that section.  The
>> Software Grant process is probably not going to be used very often
>> compared to the patch submission process and I'd rather not confuse
>>folks
>> about whether a patch is a donation. It is, but doesn't require as
>> elaborate a process.
>>
>> And please, let's not be so pushy.  Chris is offering a generous
>>donation
>> while he is busy doing other things, so I think we have to be patient.
>> And even after the software grant is recorded, the code has to undergo
>>IP
>> clearance by a PMC member.  Quite frankly, I'm still doing IP clearance
>>on
>> BlazeDS and don't have the cycles to work on another donation.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/15/13 6:53 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <flex.masuland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >@Chris Scott ... Could you collect these 5 signatures, already? If not,
>> >what makes it so hard, or taking so long, to donate this code?
>>Probably,
>> >the donation process is to complicated and needs to be simplified. Does
>> >anyone know, which documents needs to be signed for this donation
>>process?
>> >Are these documents linked at our Apache Flex website? If not, could we
>> >please link these documents on our "Get Involved" website [1] at Apache
>> >Flex? Maybe a new section called "Donating Code"?
>> >
>> >[1] http://flex.apache.org/community-getinvolved.html
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Sebastian (PPMC)
>> >Interaction Designer
>> >
>> >Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
>>code:
>> >http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> >carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nothing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/9/15 Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> > Any news?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Sebastian (PPMC)
>> >> > Interaction Designer
>> >> >
>> >> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
>> >>code:
>> >> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hey Chris, the document that needs to be signed is the software
>> >>grant.
>> >> > > The link is in the thread. Here it is again.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > > The software grant is here:
>> >> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Actually, this is the third time I've posted this link for you.
>>If
>> >>you
>> >> > > ask again, you'll have to take me with you next time you get a
>>gig
>> >>in
>> >> > > Hawaii ;-)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -Alex
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/25/13 1:12 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
>><carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >Thanks Chris,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >could someone (Alex, Michael,..?) that have done this work
>>before
>> >> point
>> >> > us
>> >> > > >to the document that Chris refer. I think you only need some
>> >>wording
>> >> > that
>> >> > > >states that people signing the document agree to donate code
>> >>ownership
>> >> > to
>> >> > > >Apache.   I think with a paragraph that express the commitment
>>to
>> >>make
>> >> > it
>> >> > > >happen will be sufficient, but as Alex or others could hopefuly
>> >>point
>> >> us
>> >> > > >if
>> >> > > >there's something more...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Thanks
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Carlos
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >2013/7/25 Chris Scott <chris.scott.one@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Hi Carlos,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I am in Hawaii working on a client deployment this week. I
>>sent
>> >>the
>> >> > > >>email
>> >> > > >> around to get support for everyone to sign ownership to apache
>> >>and
>> >> > > >>everyone
>> >> > > >> is on board. When I get back I will get the proper document
>>sent
>> >> > around
>> >> > > >> (although I honestly am not sure exactly which document we
>>need
>> >>to
>> >> > > >>sign, so
>> >> > > >> if you have any interest in tracking that down, please do) and
>> >> return
>> >> > > >>it.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Thanks for patience,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Chris
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> >> > > >> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > Hi Chris,
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > how is going the internal mail to the rest of swiz
>> >>contributors?
>> >> > There
>> >> > > >> are
>> >> > > >> > consensus to donate ownerhip to Apache Flex
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Thanks for any update regarding this
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Carlos
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > 2013/7/5 Chris Scott <chris.scott.one@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > > Yes UM has no ownership, I stared the project prior to
>> >>working
>> >> > with
>> >> > > >> them,
>> >> > > >> > > and my ownership is written into my contract
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > On 7/5/13 11:07 AM, "chris.scott.one@gmail.com"
>> >> > > >> > > > <chris.scott.one@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >> OK, so if we are putting things in terms of
>>'substantial
>> >> > > >> > contributors',
>> >> > > >> > > we
>> >> > > >> > > >> are talking about 5 people MAX. Can the 5 of us simply
>> >>cosign
>> >> > the
>> >> > > >> > > software
>> >> > > >> > > >> grant, and can you point me to the document we need to
>> >>sign.
>> >> I
>> >> > > >>can
>> >> > > >> > pass
>> >> > > >> > > it
>> >> > > >> > > >> around to everybody involved since it is primarily
>> >>Universal
>> >> > > >>Mind.
>> >> > > >> > Can I
>> >> > > >> > > >> just have the rest of the people send messages here
>>that
>> >>they
>> >> > > >> approve?
>> >> > > >> > > > OK, let's try that.  There is a chance that someone from
>> >> Apache
>> >> > > >>may
>> >> > > >> > later
>> >> > > >> > > > say that we need a better paper trail, but hopefully
>>not.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > The software grant is here:
>> >> > > >> > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > One important thing: Are you sure Universal Mind does
>>not
>> >> claim
>> >> > > >> > > ownership?
>> >> > > >> > > > As an Adobe employee I would not be able to create my
>>own
>> >> > > >>framework
>> >> > > >> on
>> >> > > >> > > > the side without more legal paperwork and if I did it
>> >>while at
>> >> > > >>Adobe
>> >> > > >> > they
>> >> > > >> > > > would own it.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > > >> As far as Swiz Framework name, Apache will want to
>> >>register
>> >> it
>> >> > > >>then,
>> >> > > >> > > since
>> >> > > >> > > >> no one else ever did. Does that make sense?
>> >> > > >> > > > Yup, and Apache may not bother to register.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > Thanks,
>> >> > > >> > > > -Alex
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > --
>> >> > > >> > Carlos Rovira
>> >> > > >> > Director de Tecnolog=EDa
>> >> > > >> > M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> > > >> > F:  +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> > > >> > http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> > > >> > http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> > > >> > http://www.avant2.es
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >--
>> >> > > >Carlos Rovira
>> >> > > >Director de Tecnolog=EDa
>> >> > > >M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> > > >F:  +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> > > >http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> > > >http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> > > >http://www.avant2.es
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carlos Rovira
>> >> Director de Tecnolog=EDa
>> >> M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> F:  +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> http://www.avant2.es
>> >>
>>
>>