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From Avi Kessner <akess...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Mozilla takes on Flash
Date Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:35:42 GMT
1. Interesting to hear that. Never got that impression before.
2. I was thinking of scout, the gaming sdk,  FB, brackets,  webfonts, and
phonegap.
3. Yeah, I don't understand it :-)
On 28 Oct 2013 20:34, "Alex Harui" <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm an Adobe employee, but not an official spokesperson, so the
> following is just my personal opinion.
>
> 1) I'm not sure your claims of making no profit is accurate
> 2) I'm not sure what "developer tools" you are referring to, but Adobe is
> definitely all about creatives these days.
> 3) FlexJS still uses FB and FP at development time, but otherwise, I'm
> trying to get you off of the Adobe stack too ;-)
>
> -Alex
>
> On 10/28/13 10:29 AM, "Avi Kessner" <akessner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >About this whole Flash/Actionscript/Flex debacle.  They destroyed customer
> >relations, while continuing to build up the flash player. They make things
> >open source, while making the ability to consume it proprietary, and yet
> >make no profit from that proprietary technology. (yes I'm aware about the
> >licensing issues, but that seems like something that could be worked
> >around
> >in one way or another)   They buy great web technologies, but then make it
> >impossible to integrate them into Flash.  They build developer tools, but
> >then advertise to "artists" instead of "developers".  Their actions have
> >caused me to want to abandon them as quickly as possible, and that can't
> >be
> >smart.  I went from regularly talking to 20-30 people about Adobe
> >products,
> >to maybe 5.
> >
> >brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> >and the number 47
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I'll bite.  Stupid about what?
> >>
> >> On 10/28/13 7:04 AM, "Avi Kessner" <akessner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Why is adobe being so stupid?  That's all I have to wonder...
> >> >
> >> >brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> >> >and the number 47
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
> >> >maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Look at the source code of this page.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/examples/inspector/inspector.html?rf
> >> >>ile=../Box2DFlashAS3/demo.swf
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting...
> >> >>
> >> >> Maurice
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> >> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsellem@systar.com]
> >> >> Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 14:36
> >> >> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> >> >> Objet : RE: Mozilla takes on Flash
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for sharing the link.
> >> >>
> >> >> I believe this is more of a competitor to FlexJS, although Shumway
> >>seems
> >> >> more aimed at Flash SWFs.
> >> >>
> >> >> It would be interesting to make comparisons between the two, in
> >>terms of
> >> >> performance , even if they are not at the same level of completion.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maurice
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> >> De : Sebastian Mohr [mailto:flex.masuland@gmail.com] Envoyé : lundi
> >>28
> >> >> octobre 2013 14:17 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Mozilla takes on
> >> >>Flash
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have an idea what this [1] means to us?
> >> >>
> >> >> [1]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/10/mozilla-takes-on-flash/?goback=%2
> >> >>Egde_4296888_member_5797420905202204675#%21
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Sebastian (PMC)
> >> >> Interaction Designer
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking for a Login
> >> >> Example<http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample>with
> >> >> Apache Flex? This guy loves ... Flash Catalyst CS5.5, the
> >> >> Designer&Developer Workflow and Design Tools for Apache Flex ...
> >>What do
> >> >> you love?
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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