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From Chris Scott <chris.scott....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Swiz Framework Donation
Date Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:00:19 GMT
Hi Alex,

Lots of fun rules... I can put together every contributor to Swiz and we
can have them grand their approval, but need to know how can we facilitate
this. If everyone needs to sign a form and send it somewhere, we can do
this, but should try to make it relatively easy so it is actually doable.

As far as Swiz being a registered trademark, certainly not by us. There is
a band called Swiz, which is why our name is the Swiz Framework, not simply

Once the code is moved, I can approve Apache to do whatever they need for
copyright and moving information to the NOTICE.txt file.

I will reach out the the group of Swiz contributors now and let them know
that a process is unfolding and we'll need everyone's agreement.

Thank you,

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> Thank you for your desire to contribute Swiz to the Apache Flex project.
> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and have only done IP clearance on the
> Adobe code, and some more experienced folks may review the IP later and
> catch things I didn't, but here are my thoughts:
> I think someone on the Flex PMC has to fill out this document:
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html#form-fi
> lling
> In order to do so, you will need to have answered a bunch of questions and
> filled out a Software Grant.
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> I hadn't look at the Swiz code until just now, but the first thing I saw
> was in
> https://github.com/swiz/swiz-framework/blob/develop/src/org/swizframework/c
> ore/Bean.as
> The header says: "Copyright 2010 Swiz Framework Contributors"  This
> brought up the following questions for me:
> 1) Is "Swiz Framework Contributors" a registered entity of some sort?
> 2) Do you have an documentation of who the members are?  There are some
> "rules" in Apache about needing every contributor's permission to accept
> code.  Apache tries not to "take" code, regardless of what the license
> says, from unwilling contributors.
> 3) In Apache, we will want to remove the copyright or have it moved to the
> NOTICE file (as described in the longer version of the Apache license).
> An authorized member of "Swiz Framework Contributors" has to do that work
> or give permission for Apache Flex folks to do so.
> At Adobe, we took patches from several folks in the community, but they
> had to sign a contributors agreement before we accepted their patch, which
> essentially gave ownership to Adobe.  So we did have a list but didn't
> need to go ask permission from every one of them.
> Another question unrelated to the header is whether "Swiz" is trademarked
> or registered legally by you or anyone else.
> My last question for now is what, if any, third-party libraries are
> required to use Swiz.
> I know this IP clearance stuff may not be much fun, but Apache is a legal
> entity and needs to have the supporting paperwork.  Thanks in advance for
> working with us.
> -Alex
> On 7/5/13 7:47 AM, "chris.scott.one@gmail.com" <chris.scott.one@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Hello Apache Flex,
> >
> >I apologize for being behind on the necessary tasks to transition the Swiz
> >Framework over to Apache Flex. I would like to express my desire here to
> >make the donation of my framework to Apache, and am glad that voting has
> >gone in favor of taking over the maintenance and development of Swiz. The
> >steps I am performing now are through Apache for transferring the license
> >of Swiz as well as IP clearance.
> >
> >The first step is completely straight forward, however the second one I do
> >not entirely understand the steps described here:
> >http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html. I may ask for
> >assistance with this one, as I don't find this exactly clear because Swiz
> >will not be a NEW incubator project, we are asking for it to become part
> >of
> >an existing project. Let's get the first part with licensing complete and
> >work from there.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Chris

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