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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex
Date Tue, 28 May 2013 17:48:27 GMT

On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gredbug@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of being
>> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project?  Personally,
>> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of Flex-related
>> even if there is no active development for it.
>There's a couple of things to consider here:
>1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an umbrella
>project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, JMeter,
>a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the Jakarta
>community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all those
>projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here.
That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active
development on all of those pieces.  I'm not sure that will be the case
here.  I think there's a good chance that these application frameworks may
not have much activity.

For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take these
code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin it off
than going through the whole
proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process.

>2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. Practically,
>could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple projects.
>seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different efforts, like
>getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be that we
>need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact
>sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid point 1
What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists?  We toyed with
the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list.  I haven't
looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much
Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure
there's been less activity on the dev list.


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