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From João Fernandes <joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex
Date Fri, 31 May 2013 17:06:58 GMT
The problem is that there are a few contributors that never got their
improvements / bug fixes merged to the project so anyone using swiz is
missing those.


On 31 May 2013 17:56, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:

>
>  The thing I don't fully understand is this:
>
>  Swiz is already licensed under the Apache License (
> https://github.com/swiz/swiz-**framework/blob/develop/LICENSE<https://github.com/swiz/swiz-framework/blob/develop/LICENSE>).
If people want to contribute, use, or modify then what is stopping them?
>
>  How will bringing the Swiz framework into the Apache Flex project help
> Apache Flex?
>  How will bringing the Swiz framework into the Apache Flex project help
> the Swiz framework?
>
>  I don't have an answer to either.
>
>  I don't understand why the union is needed; which is why I voted 0.
>
>
> On 5/31/2013 12:30 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> I'd like to vote in favor, but I'm not liking the quantity of -1's we're
>> seeing.
>> Can we cancel this vote and draft a more detailed proposal, maybe after
>> some discussing with those voting -1?
>>
>> I think the new proposal should be explicit about the name of the repo.
>> I think the new proposal should state that Swiz would have its own
>> releases and not be part of an SDK release.
>>
>> One thing I'm not quite understanding is how the future would look if a
>> committer did try to add AOP into the SDK.  Would that conflict with the
>> implementations in Swiz or other frameworks?  Or is the expectation that
>> some set of committers will update Swiz to use that implementation of AOP?
>>   Committers are free to do whatever they want, but if Swiz gets more love
>> than the other frameworks it could appear to be the "endorsed" framework,
>> which is what I think we are trying to avoid.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>> On 5/29/13 6:16 PM, "Jeff Tapper" <jeff@spoon.as> wrote:
>>
>>  -1 Binding, unless there are assurances that this will not be part of the
>>> main branch, but instead live in a separate repo.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Greg Reddin [mailto:gredbug@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:12 PM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex
>>>
>>> +1 (binding)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Carlos Rovira
>>> <carlosrovira@apache.org>**wrote:
>>>
>>>  After proposal thread
>>>> (http://markmail.org/message/**jtedmmx5djqen52l<http://markmail.org/message/jtedmmx5djqen52l>
>>>> ),comes
>>>> the vote thread.
>>>>
>>>> This thread is to decide if we finally adopt Swiz Framework under
>>>> Apache Flex, since there is multiple opinions in the Apache Flex
>>>>
>>> community.
>>>
>>>> points to take into account:
>>>>
>>>> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
>>>> with a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and
>>>> well designed.
>>>> * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's optional
>>>> a NOT part of the main sdk.
>>>> * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable version, under Apache License 2.0,
>>>> has its community and right now there's no maintenance or upgrade
>>>> since people behind the project is no longer working with Flex
>>>> technology.
>>>> * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki content.
>>>> * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
>>>> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>>>> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex
>>>> since it brings something very new to client web technologies and that
>>>> will require evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time
>>>>
>>> weaving).
>>>
>>>> Points that some people argument to not accept the donation:
>>>> * There is other frameworks like Swiz out there in the same situation
>>>> and this donation could make Swiz the preferred/recommended IOC
>>>> framework of use.
>>>>
>>>> Points to take into account:
>>>> * Erik de bruin stated that maybe the problem is "what to do with it"
>>>> under Apache Flex umbrella.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please make your vote.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>
>>>>
>
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> Jeffry Houser
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> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
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>
>


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João Fernandes

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