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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Moving JIRA emails to a new list
Date Wed, 29 May 2013 00:25:41 GMT
A standard action would be to create commits@ and issues@ MLs and move both git commits and
JIRA issues off of the dev list.

Some of the PMC will need to subscribe to these and pay attention to the changing codebase.

Regards,
Dave

On May 28, 2013, at 11:32 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote:

> Okay, moving to a new thread.
> 
> Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the
> community?
> 
> We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated by
> the JIRA emails.  That should be a big priority for us.
> 
> The proposal is:
> 
> 1.  Create a list: jira@flex.apache.org.
> 2.  All JIRA emails generated by
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will
> go to jira@flex.apache.org
> 3.  No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org
> 4.  We add all committers and PMC members to the jira@flex.apache.org list
> 5.  When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the
> jira@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities.
> 
> Any comments/suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> 
>> +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we
>> just ask INFRA for it?
>> 
>> Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however...
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
>> wrote:
>>> I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list.  I've heard from
>> quite
>>> a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of the
>>> noise of JIRA.   I think those of us who want to know what is committed
>>> will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages into a
>>> separate folder easier ;P  )
>>> 
>>> -Nick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gredbug@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of being
>>>>>> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project?  Personally,
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of Flex-related
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> even if there is no active development for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There's a couple of things to consider here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an
>> umbrella
>>>>> project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, JMeter,
>>>>> and
>>>>> a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the
>> Jakarta
>>>>> community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all those
>>>>> projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here.
>>>> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active
>>>> development on all of those pieces.  I'm not sure that will be the case
>>>> here.  I think there's a good chance that these application frameworks
>> may
>>>> not have much activity.
>>>> 
>>>> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take these
>>>> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin it
>> off
>>>> than going through the whole
>>>> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow.
>> Practically,
>>>>> we
>>>>> could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple
>> projects.
>>>>> It
>>>>> seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different efforts,
>> like
>>>>> getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be that
>> we
>>>>> need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact
>>>>> sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid
>> point 1
>>>>> above.
>>>> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists?  We toyed with
>>>> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list.  I haven't
>>>> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much
>>>> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure
>>>> there's been less activity on the dev list.
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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