Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2C7FF3F5 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54653 invoked by uid 500); 25 Apr 2013 18:54:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 54624 invoked by uid 500); 25 Apr 2013 18:54:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 54615 invoked by uid 99); 25 Apr 2013 18:54:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of omuppi1@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.182] (HELO mail-vc0-f182.google.com) (209.85.220.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:43 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ht11so3134173vcb.41 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:54:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RfVFfl5ynpnipT2ZwecRowi7fB8Pz+xgMQrzgeipRqQ=; b=YkhCXKEz5n4XpSBs+o7JeYZKjgBtjY3MsUIp9QAbyra4ya6bvVoSTWWOR5tMRUJx+3 9e9iDc+lxhfojoUCuE3oACApchqnahWe7OdjWj/TWfFcnYuW02H21Ap4ebr8lbvXI7xC JLNw6Mmqxefwi7b1FAIrTZ4rI0YLxnnKbuSzz06VrLzG1Ez6Ra4q75khywI4jcuwpZee 3b8E5XyaNlHB/JViAp70ab6RFyP2rn6rdTkExf3j+87FfkTIp8FMFKB7Bw/ZfHQv4Od4 HsmCZMoEDmU9PkYBrnij4nEbVQsjT79S4i1OpftEDuFxG9rS1Hgjo/3khDkyGs04qo7H zNgg== X-Received: by 10.220.9.3 with SMTP id j3mr27564549vcj.56.1366916062840; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:54:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: omuppi1@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.171.98 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: OmPrakash Muppirala Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:53:52 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: D5MzFeJAbvBgHRji2u6wAnjxYcM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FalconJX][FlexJS] committing? To: dev@flex.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee0145d0e6304db33f2f1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --bcaec54ee0145d0e6304db33f2f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Om, Justin, please read the following. If it does not change your mind > about taking Erik's change then we will take it since I will have then been > outvoted. > > 1. You only get once chance to make a first impression. Even if the app > starts fast when your JS or RSL is cached, the fact is that there are times > when it isn't cached. In early 2011, a vendor of a very popular consumer > desktop app was looking to port their app to Flex. They could not because > of the startup time for first time users. A couple of banks reported the > same issue trying to build consumer facing apps. I think that helped seal > Flex's fate. We were never able to use Flex to deliver a popular app that > everyone had to have. > I agree with almost everything you said. But any code anyone writes will add to the file size. Do you think that your approach will result in lesser code? Will it support all the use cases (other than IE6/7 support) that Erik wants to support by using this library? Why do we want to spend time on a problem that has already been solved and has been proven to be a very robust solution? Other than adding to file size, what are your arguments against it? > 2. At home, I get about 80K/sec download speed. This 6K I won't feel, but > if we keep adding 6K just because we think it will have fewer bugs, it > won't > take long before I feel it. > You are implying that we are adding 6K worth of code for no reason. I am not sure if that is the case. > 3. I would like to do a poll to see if we need to support IE6 and/or IE7, > but will it change your opinion if we don't need to support these old > browsers? If not, then the votes have been cast. > I wouldn't want to spend time writing and testing code for IE6 and IE7. But if it comes as pre-packaged deal like this instance, I dont see the harm in using it. > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > --bcaec54ee0145d0e6304db33f2f1--