Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8952AF19E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5849 invoked by uid 500); 20 Mar 2013 02:54:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 5717 invoked by uid 500); 20 Mar 2013 02:54:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 5681 invoked by uid 99); 20 Mar 2013 02:54:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:54:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of flex.masuland@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.50] (HELO mail-bk0-f50.google.com) (209.85.214.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:54:17 +0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id jg9so528318bkc.23 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T/hrZJELozuAl+icb2HVcEg3GRmIbK8c5fVeUyzHdUI=; b=pD0dfbPHCJxaLty82e0CnhtQWpAL3tYHdHcKKpNH+yUtcvcNi+6s5rvChhIagiWMUD soTVrVexqradG5uKaSPnlZ9/qEsHqBHBo/Fv9Tr3ulM0b0BadrN+gUR4lgLKzcuZLypx NDYeBMJOVCj95vbhqS+YYbaUrrqFv4GHZTrv93OuMuvF+2u/DMHvIFWt8Inid3UHDdOW Z+cQRfeVAYvK8GRIFlTq2sYTujmEPf5SNvxMvsklvQUK903M1ITNLLSnijoe0H16JB2u 8mpkhRdeCjJP6VKSTjExURZCGoKQpcGj/hW1IHUu5xp071OIB0hdOjoRzDRzPlPRIjLl hfXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.4.70 with SMTP id ob6mr9872972bkb.95.1363748035384; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.36.134 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5112A835.7000302@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:53:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page From: Sebastian Mohr To: dev@flex.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302235ad368cd704d852556e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf302235ad368cd704d852556e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I have added two more design tools to our "Designer & Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ... 1) Adobe Illustrator CS5.5 & CS6 * Save Artboard to FXG file 2) Radiate - Flex Designer GUI (Thanks to ... @jude) * About Radiate, http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2 * Radiate Demo, http://www.radii8.com/demo/ If you are aware of any other designer & developer tools please let me know. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools -- Sebastian (PPMC) Interaction Designer Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code: http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:45 AM, jude wrote: > Do you mean in those tools? You would have to edit the Flash Catalyst > workspace files. The last half of this > post< > http://www.judahfrangipane.com/blog/2010/09/03/flash-catalyst-jailbreak-for-flex-developers/ > >describes > that workflow although it's not ideal. Or do you mean in a design > tool like the one I'm working on? I haven't got to that point yet but there > are a couple of approaches I would take. > > The first is to go into a skin editing mode when you double click on a > component. It's similar to how FC works. Any states or skin parts would > show up in a panel. You could then add new states or skin parts. If you > added either you would have a choice to modify the existing component (if > possible) or create or extend to a new component. There are open source > libraries out there that allow you create new AS3 classes at run time. I'm > not sure if they support metadata yet but I can't see why that information > can't be added. > > Part of plan is to let the developer use their IDE of choice to create the > components and application logic. They would then load the SWF control > library at runtime and then wire up the components and events, if that > makes sense. They could continue to upload new SWF's and the updated > components and application would just be reloaded. So you would create and > modify the skinnable component with FB for example, and when that compiled > you'd hit refresh on radiate and that component would be pulled in and show > the new skin parts and skin states. BTW the application logic would or > could be wrapped up in neat packages to be applied to any component > anywhere. > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Sebastian Mohr >wrote: > > > @Jude ... thanks for sharing this, > > > > Any ideas how to implement the roundtrip of custom SkinnableComponents > > with declared [SkinPart] and [SkinState] tags as shown in screenshots > > of FlashCatalyst and FlashBuilder [1] and the small LoginExample.fxp > > project [2]? > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools > > [2] > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30749573/LoginExample.fxp?version=1&modificationDate=1360161322000 > > > > > > -- > > Sebastian (PPMC) > > Interaction Designer > > > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code: > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, jude wrote: > > > > > I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it > out > > > there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers > and > > > developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with > > adequate > > > design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no > > development. > > > If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived > > close > > > to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would > add > > in > > > some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a > > design > > > or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and > > in > > > the context of the workflow of daily design and development work. > > > > > > This is a little demo I think I shared at one point, > > > http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and > > it > > > grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without > > > recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype > (and > > > it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components > > > panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree > structure > > > as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a > > > properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo > > and > > > a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be. > > > > > > What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and > > play > > > effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree > > > outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some > of > > > these features in this drop in class now, > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as > > > . > > > I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options > > and > > > at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are > here, > > > http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2. > > > > > > If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed > > things, > > > "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work > > towards > > > that". That. > > > *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr < > flex.masuland@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sebastian (PPMC) > > > > Interaction Designer > > > > > > > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this > > code: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings < > paul.hastings@gmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer & > > > > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks > > > > >> welcome :) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --20cf302235ad368cd704d852556e--