Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA1A9D808 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19877 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2013 16:40:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19801 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2013 16:40:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19793 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2013 16:40:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:40:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of webdoublefx@hotmail.com designates 157.55.1.160 as permitted sender) Received: from [157.55.1.160] (HELO dub0-omc2-s21.dub0.hotmail.com) (157.55.1.160) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:40:00 +0000 Received: from DUB118-DS24 ([157.55.1.136]) by dub0-omc2-s21.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:39:38 -0800 X-EIP: [TsYSIypFaZCihejJbExzVaXMJl3WC4mV] X-Originating-Email: [webdoublefx@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_THOMAS?= To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] taking Apache Flex to the next level Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:39:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac3qlPdgOA8xBwZPR+6dVb58jWQ9GgAAmOYQ Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2013 16:39:38.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[1666C730:01CDEA9A] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, At Devoxx and Devoxx France (initially, Devoxx is an annual European Java, Android and HTML5 conference which reached 3400 attendees from 40 different countries in 2011), Flex is not represented since Adobe doesn't own it anymore, I guess there are many other kinds of places like that where Adobe Flex was represented and where it's not the case anymore, I guess a good start could be to enumerate those conferences and organize to have speakers there to introduce Flex as in how it is powerful in the perspective of the current technical needs (Eg those unmet by HTML5 in big company projects). -Fred -----Original Message----- From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:erik@ixsoftware.nl] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:03 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] taking Apache Flex to the next level I'm not talking Roadmap here, Alex, but even Open Source projects done the Apache way can have a direction and maybe even actual goals. One definition might be: "maintaining the project status quo by preventing any discussion about common goals" Another might be: "bringing the power of the Flex framework to multiple, vendor independent platforms" Or even: "one framework to rule them all" ;-) I'm not saying we need any kind of fixed target or anything else that might somehow be in conflict with the strict definition of the Apache Way, what I'm looking for is giving people willing to help out evangelising Apache Flex some kind of handle, something to start building an effective campaign upon. EdB On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/4/13 7:10 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> A discussion on the PMC list brought up an interesting point, which I >> think this list can contribute to: >> >> Can we give a clear definition of this project's future? > IMO, no. But even if we can't, that doesn't mean we can't use better > marketing about what we have done or are doing. > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl