Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E841EC9F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8736 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 2013 19:03:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flex-dev-archive@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 8703 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 2013 19:03:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 8695 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jan 2013 19:03:22 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:03:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.208.4.201] (HELO mout.gmx.net) (74.208.4.201) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:03:15 +0000 Received: from mailout-us.mail.com ([172.19.198.47]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmxus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MJkXI-1TuSKX4900-001Dpl for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:02:53 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Jan 2013 19:02:53 -0000 Received: from p5DC31678.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.1.100]) [93.195.22.120] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us007) with SMTP; 16 Jan 2013 14:02:53 -0500 X-Authenticated: #74346161 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18rEwhBoMIrhzQYunS1cdtW/NH+KiOdzwZk9pUp05 3xKfVO3EMyFizW Message-ID: <50F6F94F.90209@atheist.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:02:39 +0100 From: dude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] The end of the SpiceFactory References: <20130114180839.64012ujj7nqbnlkn@franklin.liquidweb.com>,<022c01cdf350$5c4c4d10$14e4e730$@usa.net> In-Reply-To: X-TagToolbar-Keys: D20130116200239039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Wow, so much arrogance and ignorance in one single post. Am 15.01.2013 19:57, schrieb David Coleman: > Having used (and DESPISED) Parsley, I can say with pleasure "Good Riddance". For me it was overkill and added little to no value to the quality of the code. All the ppl I know who used Parsley said "oh but you have dependency injection" "oh but you have encapsulation of this" "oh but you have decoupled code"... I say "ever hear of a singleton? flex doesn't need dependency injection if you are smart" "why encapsulate? don't your developers know how to use the Flex SDK?, what are you afraid of writing your own code" and to the ppl who blather on about decoupled code... I laugh in their faces and ask them "ever hear of Events?" > > Ok so maybe there were some benefits, and of course my opinions are admittedly acid, draconian and intentionally dismissive... But I believe that Flex is a great framework all by itself, and if you need an extra package to do MVC, you don't understand what MVC is in the first place, and no matter what you do, it won't be good. > >> From: tangent@usa.net >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: RE: [OT] The end of the SpiceFactory >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:44:31 -0500 >> >> I am glad I have skipped Parsley and looked into RobotLegs, which is about >> to release RobotLegs 2. >> >> As for HTML 5, I still don't get all the frenzy around the technologies >> where they are built on old JavaScript that is not strongly typed, and >> pretty much every features HTML 5 has to offer are "I am catching up with >> Flash." But all the decision makers who have zero understanding of Flash >> and just a few whitepaper on HTML 5 would go frenzy with the latest stuff, >> most stemmed from the hatred of Flash because of those annoying Flash >> advertisements that incompetent designers have come up with. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:09 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [OT] The end of the SpiceFactory >> >> Right, the eating and beating was a visual for the hedonism of the >> HTML5 community and there reckless JavaScript development. >> >> I agree, if I can use ActionScript to make WebAudio applications in 1 >> year, this will be a success. :) >> >> Mike >> >> Quoting Alex Harui : >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/14/13 2:22 PM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> JavaScript unfortunately is the only road left. >>> Native (mobile) apps is also a possible road. >>> >>>> This decade of my life >>>> will be fulfilled if the tortoise can walk passed the hare stuffing >>>> his face with jQuery muffins. >>> Thanks for making me laugh. I wish I were an artist because I would >> sketch >>> a political cartoon of that. But remember, the hare got beat by snoozing, >>> not by overeating. And really, I don't think we have to beat the hare to >> be >>> successful. >>> >>> -- >>> Alex Harui >>> Flex SDK Team >>> Adobe Systems, Inc. >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC >> http://www.teotigraphix.com >> http://blog.teotigraphix.com >> > >