Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E982DE13 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65224 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2012 19:26:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65186 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2012 19:26:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65178 invoked by uid 99); 17 Nov 2012 19:26:09 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:26:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 50.87.16.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of nickt@perfectedz.com) Received: from [50.87.16.10] (HELO oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com) (50.87.16.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:26:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 3850 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2012 19:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box460.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.60) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2012 19:25:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=perfectedz.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=/6k/ZzX7fMkqMDURmdJAB2dWYKDpw7zOyP9AZkhCR4A=; b=UuauApqAmTia+8VKb7sEsDcGqKwKpTSNmey/v7yxaGLk155gNQ08cwQlVaMv6A4D26r/2NfgWLoSXrJcu1EFT4ekxo7HKp6OdSAiv+VdgQFTswdIFznbjboGT0Ga+KW8; Received: from [209.85.219.47] (port=44713 helo=mail-oa0-f47.google.com) by box460.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TZo1O-0006Y8-N5 for flex-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:25:42 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h1so3660612oag.6 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.32.137 with SMTP id j9mr7098045oei.133.1353180341882; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:25:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.73.104 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A7DBBE.3000103@dot-com-it.com> References: <149F8129B58B2D418508E63117D9C5419B5B35FF86@nambx05.corp.adobe.com> <149F8129B58B2D418508E63117D9C5419B5B35FF9C@nambx05.corp.adobe.com> <50A74C1C.2060507@gmail.com> <50A78F40.6010202@gmail.com> <50A79724.9090500@gmail.com> <191F0DA5-FAD3-461D-8E57-D686D2104560@lausn.is> <50A7A390.3000902@gmail.com> <98E0A436-6581-468C-ACD7-747551001CDB@lausn.is> <50A7BDCA.7070806@gmail.com> <50A7C945.1010804@dot-com-it.com> <50A7CA02.4010209@gmail.com> <50A7DBBE.3000103@dot-com-it.com> From: Nick Tsitlakidis Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:25:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Flex 5 in haxe To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org, jeffry@dot-com-it.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1ec569850c504ceb5d9a2 X-Identified-User: {3139:box460.bluehost.com:inertiab:perfectedz.com} {sentby:smtp auth 209.85.219.47 authed with nickt@perfectedz.com} X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --e89a8fb1ec569850c504ceb5d9a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding the guys who wait for Alex to share his thoughts. I dont want to speak for him but I think that he shared some of his vision in the thread about FalconJS and the slide presentation. And I think that he stated that he needs help from the community to create something that makes sense and complete the vision. Also about the ones who think that Flex is safe for the next 3-4 years. That may be true but a complete rewrite or a complete refactoring or targeting other platforms will take A LOT of time to be completed. Planning something like this early is critical. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote= : > On 11/17/2012 12:31 PM, s=E9bastien Paturel wrote: > >> yes unity can output swf now. >> but they had their own plugin before stage3D. >> And unity will compete with Adobe on the tooling part which is where >> Adobe wants to make money. >> > > I don't believe that is a complete understanding. > > Not all of Adobe's Flash Platform money is coming from tooling. They hav= e > those premium features ( http://www.adobe.com/devnet/** > flashplayer/articles/premium-**features.html) which have a weird licensing m= odel w/ a percentage of revenue. I assume > that be the way forward how Adobe makes money; with Tools and the open > screen project being secondary. > > Previously, I thought the bulk of the money Flash Player made--in the > past--was via the ads in the installer. [That stupid toolbar checkbox > everyone forgets to unclick when installing or updating Flash Player] [I > don't know numbers, but I've been told it was an obscene amount]. That > revenue is going away as Flash Player moves to "silent updates". > > -- > Jeffry Houser > Technical Entrepreneur > 203-379-0773 > -- > http://www.flextras.com?c=3D104 > UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready! > -- > http://www.theflexshow.com > http://www.jeffryhouser.com > http://www.asktheflexpert.com > -- > Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust > > --=20 Nick Tsitlakidis, CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD. www.perfectedz.com --e89a8fb1ec569850c504ceb5d9a2--