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From "aYo ~" <...@binitie.com>
Subject Re: [FALCON] It starts with an idea
Date Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:30:16 GMT
a lot of my current work is now AIR and native Android based. Coming from a
flash flex background, I found droid development a lot easier  because of
its similarity to flex development. Michael has a bijou of an idea here.
On 14 Nov 2012 23:34, "Michael Schmalle" <apache@teotigraphix.com> wrote:

> Yes, it does exist and Google has don a fine job promoting their layout
> designer etc.
> Coming from years of Flex development and MXML application design I can
> certainly say that although using XML as they do is great, having a
> compiler like the MXML compiler could offer a huge abstraction that their
> XML could not match.
> Plus the extension side of being able to produce their layout XML OR
> straight Java constructs is compelling enough for me to want to try it.
> One of the great things I am realizing about Apache is I don't work for a
> corporation and even the WC3. I work for myself fulfilling something I see
> that could help "something", maybe myself as centered as that sounds.
> Regardless of this idea I have, my point is this. One of Adobe's marketing
> schemes was to throw crap on every wall possible and market it as such with
> huge holes in between.
> Apache Flex will get a new life if us committers and community realize it
> didn't work then and it won't work now. (The one size fits all). I want to
> start off with point specific tools that do 1 thing. I have developed
> enough tools to know you don't invent a swiss army knife until you have
> invented the knife, screwdriver, cork opener etc. Once you have all the
> tools you can then put them together.
> As far a JavFX well, I don't know I haven't used it.
> Like I said, I have no stake in Flex and I want to stay away from the
> Flash Player and AIR. This doesn't mean I won't contribute if momentum goes
> in a certain direction, just that I want my own dream that isn't canned
> into the cliche'd 2012 HTML5 hype.
> Mike
> Quoting Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com**>:
>  Hi Michael,
>> could you explain a bit more?. Your idea is about make XML layout for
>> Android based on Falcon?. I don't know to much about native android
>> development but this does not exit yet?
>> btw, a coworker showed me latest version of JavaFX and I think it would be
>> a good idea for all of us here to see this new version since I think it's
>> very promising. I saw many things copied from flex (skins, skinparts, xml
>> layout declaration, netbeans desing view editor,...). If JavaFx is as good
>> as it seems to be, I think it could be a decent competitor, taking into
>> account that thinks like eclipse, maven and other industrial tools work
>> like a charm in java.
>> 2012/11/14 Gordon Smith <gosmith@adobe.com>
>>  > MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.
>>> Interesting idea!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.**com<apache@teotigraphix.com>
>>> ]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: [FALCON] It starts with an idea
>>> Hey,
>>> I just wanted to state this in a new thread so others might know my
>>> intentions as a committer for the time being. Some of you might have
>>> noticed I am quite interested in the compiler and plan on donating a lot
>>> of
>>> my time to it helping Gordon out with tests and trying to get the
>>> community
>>> involved by documenting some of the more obscure features.
>>> One thing I want to note;
>>> At this point in time in my life I really don't care about Javascript.
>>> Really, I don't and it's never going to be a badge on my backpack of
>>> life.
>>> That being said, I see my contribution in the project a process of joy
>>> and
>>> invention. Just writing something to Gordon a second ago I realized what
>>> that is. The only way I can continue is if I have a goal. That goal is
>>> realized by the fact I program Java android and do extensive UI stuff
>>> with
>>> music applications I have coming up in the next 2 years using a Java C++
>>> toolkit I have been working on the last
>>> 10 months.
>>> What does this mean? MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.
>>> Man I have no idea how the hell I could do it but I know I want to and am
>>> going to try.
>>> Getting into the MXML compiler the last couple days reminded me of the
>>> diamond in the haystack we have.
>>> Anyway, more thoughts to come, this was a off the cuff ramble.
>>> Peace,
>>> Mike
>>> --
>>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
>>> http://www.teotigraphix.com
>>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> Director de TecnologĂ­a
>> M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> F:  +34 912 35 57 77
>> http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> http://www.directwriter.es
>> http://www.avant2.es
> --
> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
> http://www.teotigraphix.com
> http://blog.teotigraphix.com

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