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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:13:28 +0200
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC7
From: Christophe Herreman <christophe.herreman@gmail.com>
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
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OK all, thanks for the feedback. I agree that we need to release often and
early, although in certain cases it doesn't feel quite right.

Since there are no blocking issues, a release is justified I guess.

+1 (binding)

regards,
Christophe

2012/10/19 Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com>

> This issue will be fixed in the next release.
>
> I know and agree that this is not perfect, but we cannot delay a release
> till we get everything perfect.  We will never release anything if we wai=
t
> to fix every issue that we discover.
>
> This is not a release blocker issue, nor does it have security
> implications.  We cannot delay the release any longer especially after so
> many people have voted for the release.
>
> The patch has been contributed and it will be committed asap.  We will be
> making a follow up release soon.  Also, we are shipping with an auto upda=
te
> mechanism that will ensure that folks get the subsequent releases for sur=
e.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
> On Oct 19, 2012 1:57 AM, "Christophe Herreman" <
> christophe.herreman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry about this, but why would you release the installer in it's curre=
nt
> > state? I know there is a lot of "pressure" and excitement to get this
> > released, but there are currently clearly some bigger issues with the
> > proposed RC in terms of translations.
> >
> > IMO it's better to delay the release until the most serious issues are
> > fixed than to release now, knowing that it will cause problems for
> (perhaps
> > a minor part of ) the users.
> >
> > I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead to
> > frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to the
> > users.
> >
> > kind regards,
> > Christophe
> >
> > 2012/10/19 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
> >
> > > Yes...please, release....
> > >
> > > 2012/10/19 Omar Gonzalez <omarg.developer@gmail.com>:
> > > > Release, release, release!!!
> > > >
> > > > -omar
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Erik de Bruin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Stefan,
> > > >>
> > > >> I understand the problem, and I see the implications. That's why I
> > > >> push for a quick "point" update AFTER this release, to adress this
> and
> > > >> other known issues. In fact, I'll enter your fix into the source
> this
> > > >> weekend, if it checks out.
> > > >>
> > > >> However, I sense that after 7 (!) release candidates, a kind of
> 'vote
> > > >> fatigue' is setting in. By this I mean that if we do another RC, I
> > > >> think we might not get enough votes just because people will not
> > > >> bother to enter theirs again (and again, and again).
> > > >>
> > > >> I therefor recommend that we use the votes we now have to do a
> > release.
> > > >>
> > > >> EdB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Horochovec
> > > >> <stefan.horochovec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Erik
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's possible to run the installer in operating systems that hav=
e
> > > >> language
> > > >> > available on Installer and that is different from en_US, however=
,
> > > have to
> > > >> > be done the process of changing the language of the installer fo=
r
> > > en_US.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you try to install and don't change the language to en_US, th=
e
> > > >> > installation dont work.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Log of installation (sorry, in portuguese):
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Buscado o espelho da URL de download do SDK a partir do CGI.
> > > >> > Criando diret=F3rio do Apache Flex
> > > >> > Criando diret=F3rio tempor=E1rio
> > > >> > N=E3o foi poss=EDvel criar o diret=F3rio tempor=E1rio
> > > >> > Instala=E7=E3o abortada
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And here you can see the steps:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1 -
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549807/step1.png
> > > >> > 2 -
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549808/step2.png
> > > >> > 3 -
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549809/step3.png
> > > >> > 4 -
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549810/step4.png
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > In my opinion, this is a very critical problem, a time may come
> that
> > > >> affect
> > > >> > a large number of people.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Stefan Horochovec
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2012/10/19 Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Stefan,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thank you for your contribution! As we discussed, I'll look int=
o
> > your
> > > >> >> patches as soon as I can, and I'm sure they will prove valid an=
d
> > > >> >> useful.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Would you agree that if we do an update soon, lack of true
> > > >> >> internationalisation shouldn't be a deal breaker for this first
> > > >> >> release?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> EdB
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Horochovec
> > > >> >> <stefan.horochovec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> > -1
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > My first test was done in an environment in English, but when=
 I
> > > >> changed
> > > >> >> my
> > > >> >> > OS to my local language (Portuguese), to test the translation=
s,
> > the
> > > >> >> result
> > > >> >> > was not good.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > In step where are defined which license will be accepted, jus=
t
> no
> > > >> option
> > > >> >> on
> > > >> >> > the left appears only when the switch is made the selected
> > > language.
> > > >> Ex:
> > > >> >> > change to english, and then go back to my default language.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I submitted the bug in JIRA, and also submitted a patch (whic=
h
> if
> > > >> >> accepted)
> > > >> >> > causes the installer to load the translation of default
> language
> > of
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> > installer and then load the installation user's language, so
> when
> > > >> getting
> > > >> >> > some text missing will interface with all texts, some not
> > > translated.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > This whole environment is only valid when the Installer is
> > launched
> > > >> on an
> > > >> >> > operating system that contains a translation and the same is
> > > detected
> > > >> by
> > > >> >> > the installer before being read keys for translation into
> > English.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33223
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Stefan Horochovec
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 2012/10/18 Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> Sounds good.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> I will wait one more day for Dave Fisher to vote here.  Afte=
r
> > > that I
> > > >> >> will
> > > >> >> >> post the vote thread on general.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> >> Om
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Carol Frampton <
> > > cframpto@adobe.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > Director de Tecnolog=EDa
> > > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > > F:  +34 912 35 57 77
> > > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> > > http://www.directwriter.es
> > > http://www.avant2.es
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Christophe Herreman
> > http://www.herrodius.com
> > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > http://www.as3commons.org
> >
>


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