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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:48:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
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So next FP will have current VM and new VM? Is AIR also going to ship with
these 2 VMs?
And what does this mean for AIR apps compiled to native code.

- superabe


On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Gordon Smith <gosmith@adobe.com> wrote:

> The new VM Adobe is developing is for both Flash Player and AIR.
>
> - Gordon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s=E9bastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.flex@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:10 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
>
> Hi Thibault,
> Does this VM change will also be applied to next AIR runtime?
>
> Le 19/10/2012 01:31, Thibault Imbert a =E9crit :
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Just to clarify. I am not saying Flex developers should bet on
> > Feathers/Starling to be the next Flex.
> >
> > I was just giving examples of how a very lightweight Flex could work
> > on this new runtime.
> >
> > Thibault Imbert | sr. product manager gaming (Graphics, Language, VM,
> > Compiler) | Monocle | adobe systems
> > gaming.adobe.com <http://gaming.adobe.com/> | bytearray.org
> > <http://bytearray.org/> | @thibault_imbert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/12 3:38 PM, "labriola@digitalprimates.net"
> > <labriola@digitalprimates.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Just a heads up, given the architecture changes of the next-gen
> >>> runtime, Flex will not be able to run in it. I would "highly"
> >>> recommend you guys having a look at Feathers (work from Josh
> >>> >Tynjala - feathersui.com) on top of Starling, which will run
> beautifully in our next runtime.
> >> Before this goes much farther, please keep in mind that Flex will run
> >> in the current AVM, that isn't changing.
> >>
> >> It won't run in the new AVM, which is primarily for gaming. While I
> >> am sure the new VM is just the best thing, anywhere, ever, I am a
> >> little worried that it won't immediately (or ever) support all of the
> >> features relevant to Flex applications (which usually aren't games).
> >> As an example, the internationalization APIs in the Flash VM were
> >> never finished, I can't imagine their port and expansion is a high
> priority.
> >>
> >> This is Apache and everyone is free to spend their cycles where they
> >> see fit. To me though, I wouldn't "highly" recommend trying to reach
> >> this new future-target. If Adobe plans on honoring their promises,
> >> Flash Player will continue to run Flex apps for at least the next 4
> >> years. If the new VM is so universally lauded, that it becomes the
> >> choice for large-scale applications within companies using Flex
> >> world-wide, then I will re-evaluate.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, if we are talking about porting or rewriting Flex, I
> >> have a few other places that seem more relevant today.
> >>
> >> My $1.50,
> >> Mike
> >>
>
>

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