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From "Yvon Sauvageau" <ysma...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [POLL] tag (was: Re: [VOTE] "The more designer tools exist for Apache Flex, the more attractive Apache Flex becomes")
Date Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:13:39 GMT
There was nothing wrong with your tone. And as you put it, there was no tone  
at all.


-----Original message-----
From: Michael Schmalle <apache@teotigraphix.com>
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 15:20:12 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [POLL] tag (was: Re: [VOTE] "The more designer tools exist for  
Apache Flex, the more attractive Apache Flex becomes")

Since my tone was being questioned, how am I as a volunteer supposed  
to react to a statement like this?

I still doubt, though, that this designing and skinning tool, you are
proposing, can be created by one person alone. If the Adobe Catalyst
team couldn't finish Flash Catalyst within 4 years of development, how
could you possibly do that just on your own?

Who says I am working alone in the Apache Flex project? How did the  
conversation between Om, I and others prompt a statement like this?


Quoting Michael Schmalle <apache@teotigraphix.com>:

> Quoting Jonathan Campos <jonbcampos@gmail.com>:
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Michael Schmalle  
>> <apache@teotigraphix.com>wrote:
>>> I'm not voting on this but, I understand the tension here, I would bet a
>>> great deal of money on the effort put into getting Adobe to release  
>>> code for FC or the Visual Editor of FB is never going to happen. Alex in
>>> his own way has hinted at this in a couple of emails.
>>> Why this thread even exists is beyond me Sabatian, didn't the thread  
>>> creating a visual designer that exists and was being talked about  
between 2
>>> involved committers kind of preempt this?
>>> Before anybody goes bashing me, just note I am not putting an ounce of
>>> hope or thought into FlashCatalyst or FlashBuilder's DesignView becoming
>>> Apache Flex's design view savior.
>>> In the eternal words of those that don't like to waste time, cut your
>>> losses and move on.
>> While I don't agree with the tone I do agree that I don't see a point to
>> this poll. If you want a visual editor start building it. If people like  
>> then it will be picked up. It's that simple.
>> --
>> Jonathan Campos
> There is really no tone, it more coming from the fact that there is  
> a conversation about solving a problem, he doesn't want to be  
> involved in solving that problem from the perspective of what people  
> can do that are involved with the Apache Flex project.
> That survey existed 10 months ago and nothing has changed, we only  
> have Alex basically saying no way, no how 10 months later.
> Sabatian, I did catch one of your comments regarding our "design  
> view" project and you basically said with a couple people involved  
> it's impossible and that is why you are continuing the push to get  
> FlashCatalyst in CS7 or whatever version you said.
> The way I see it is there are major circuits and cross talk  
> happening and it's diluting the substance of trying to solve a  
> problem.
> Mike
> -- 
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC

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