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From Charles Monteiro <charles.monte...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)
Date Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:46:12 GMT
I'm wondering if most in this group are more interested about targeting
html5 than air because it seems to me it would be hard to do both well.

I want to run on AIR.
 On Oct 5, 2012 9:38 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with others that you should abandone the idea that Adobe could get
> Catalyst back from the dead.
> They have been pretty clear about it, and the open sourcing is not an
> option because of code dependencies.
> Your only chance to see catalyst come back from Adobe, is to make Apache
> Flex te best framework for HTML5 runtime!
> Le 04/10/2012 00:48, Sebastian Mohr a écrit :
>> @christofer dutz ... thanks for sharing your thoughts. +1 from my side!
>> Flash Catalyst CS5.5 is a charm for interaction designers like me.
>> Sincerely Yours,
>> Sebastian Mohr
>> Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
>> Interaction Designer & Musician
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/**masuland<http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland>
>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:21 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de wrote:
>>  Well isn't it usually that way around?
>>> I create some general UI scetches using some tools like blamiq mockups
>>> and deal with negoitating the functionallity with my customers. As soon as
>>> the component works as desired I go "pimp my app" and give it to a designer
>>> to have it pimped.
>>> Using Catalyst this was really easy (As soon as you had a desiger at
>>> hand that was used to it and it's concepts). I was even able to let the
>>> designer skin a running application deployed by me somewhere on the web, so
>>> I didn't have give away the code of the application itself or setup the
>>> environment at the designers office. This workflow was the major
>>> breakthrough for me and was one of the major things that made me shift
>>> allmost entirely to the Flex road.
>>> It's a real pitty to have it dropped and wasted :-(
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Oktober 2012 18:18
>>> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View
>>> AIR App)
>>> On 10/3/12 7:38 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <
>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>  Oh ... let me thow in a little more weight for the Catalyst ;-)
>>>> I invested quite some time in setting up a project structure that
>>>> allowed me to concentrate on developing (Using an ugly but functional
>>>> developer Skin) and having professional Designers use Catalyst to Skin
>>>> the application.
>>>> Unfortunately it seemed that the designers available on the market
>>>> were all even less "finished" than the Catalyst project, but as soon
>>>> as the designers got the hang of it, the results were pretty
>>>> sattisfying and I had what I was allways dreaming about: Being able to
>>>> concentrate on the functionality and have a designer do all the stuff
>>>> that sells the application (cool buttons, even greater effects and
>>>> animated transitions, ...) :-)
>>>> I would be really happy if Adobe didn't entirely drop this tool, and
>>>> if they did, If they would somehow open-source it.
>>>>  It is essentially "dropped".  See [1].   There are no plans to
>>> opensource
>>> it.  It too had a lot of "baggage" that made it difficult to implement.
>>>  For example, it really wasn't extensible as to what components it could
>>> handle.
>>> The principle behind it (that you can take designer art and break it
>>> down into components) is compelling, but I question whether it remains
>>> valid in a world of dynamic UI.
>>> It is also interesting to note that you used it in completely different
>>> way than it was intended.  It was for a design-first-then-develop workflow
>>> and you did it the other way (which is what I do when I have a choice as
>>> well).
>>> [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html<http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html>
>>> --
>>> Alex Harui
>>> Flex SDK Team
>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

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