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From sébastien Paturel <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
Date Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:03:43 GMT
Hi Thibault,
Thanks for the precision.
But one last info needed: will next AIR for mobile runtime will embed 
only the new vm? meaning that only ASNext projects will be able to run 
with AIR on new mobile devices / OS targetted by Adobe?


Le 25/10/2012 17:53, Thibault Imbert a écrit :
> Hi Sebastien,
> To confirm, such a framework like Feathers or Starling would have to be updated to ASNext
to run on the new VM.
> Sent from mobile, please pardon brevity/errors.
> ________________________________
> From: sébastien Paturel
> Sent: 10/25/2012 8:45 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
> In the short term, it will be needed by flex to run on VM3, to be able
> to create apps for new mobile hardware, and run better on retina Display.
> According to jonathan Campos, it is feasable to render flex sdk on
> starling for the next main release.
> And if i understand well what thibault said, we don't need anything more
> then that to run on next VM (for example no need to be AS4)
> "having a look at Feathers (work from Josh >Tynjala - feathersui.com) on
> top of Starling, which will run beautifully in our next runtime"
> It still has to be confirmed, but it could be a good short term solution
> (still relying on Adobe's runtime), to let flex the time to do more deep
> mutli target long term changes, even if it means starting again from
> scratch.
> If the solution is to start over, it could be the perfect time to ask if
> AS3 is the better choice for a multi target language, and if flex should
> not leverage what has been done with haxe.
> thats the question i was asking to Alex (i was not meaning AS4)
> jangaroo is great, but only for JS transcompilation, and future flex
> will need to target more platforms, like Haxe does.
> i wonder how jangaroo resolved issues with AS3 to JS compilation, that
> haxe resolved by dropping the feature directly from the language?
> Le 25/10/2012 17:01, Kevin Newman a écrit :
>> On 10/18/12 7:28 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> Yes, the community has to figure out what the essence of Flex really
>>> is. To me, it's an rapid-development application framework, the
>>> combination of a procedural language with a declarative language, and
>>> a widely-deployed runtime that can support RIAs. The runtime of the
>>> future for RIAs seems to be native code for mobile devices and
>>> HTML/Javascript for browser apps. The best procedural language is
>>> anything that can be compiled to these runtimes. MXML is a perfectly
>>> good declarative language for UIs.
>> Maybe the real discussion should be less about supporting AVM3 and
>> more about supporting a native compile framework - something like haXe
>> NME maybe (already open source). How much of Adobe's LLVM based iOS
>> AOT source is open? (if any)
>> http://www.haxenme.org/
>> For Javascript, there's already Jangaroo (open source):
>> http://www.jangaroo.net/home/
>> Kevin N.

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