Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E1339052 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86092 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2012 07:36:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86053 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2012 07:36:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86035 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:36:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.187 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.187] (HELO exprod6og104.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.187) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:36:27 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob104.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBot5khrlrXRfvOxZBbClheuvjt6v5RL@postini.com; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:36:07 PDT Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4b [10.128.4.237]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q727a58N016860 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas01.corp.adobe.com (nacas01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.99]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q727ZDYu021294 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NAMBX02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.127.96]) by nacas01.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.99]) with mapi; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:35:40 -0700 From: Alex Harui To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:35:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey Thread-Topic: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey Thread-Index: Ac1wgDe32qFJpiyGTPyR/63agUVHIQAATKRA Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.11.0.110726 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 8/2/12 12:26 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >>> Some direction (agreed upon >>> by all the project leads, to be sure) will help get things off the >>> ground, or at least move along at something more than a glacial >>> pace... >> But there are no project leads. Just a bunch of committers and lots of >> other folks on the mailing list. >=20 > I'm not being difficult, I'm just trying to understand the Apache way: > aren't the PPMC (Podling Project Management Committee) not the > 'project leads'? >=20 I don't see the PMC as project leads. They have more of an administrative responsibility than a technical one. See [1]. There is no hierarchy in the engineering. Nobody gets to tell anyone else what to do. Committers can veto your work, but for technical reasons, not because it wasn't on the roadmap or a high enough priority. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui