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From: Mike Chambers <mchamber@adobe.com>
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:22:26 -0700
Subject: Re: bay area folks and flash
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Unity and Epic (and others) already have great tool chains for creating 3D =
gaming content that targets the Flash Player. I dont see why there is a nee=
d for Adobe to try to fill that niche when there are already great solution=
s in the market.

Instead, we are introducing a model where those third party tool chains dri=
ve revenue that goes directly back into Flash Player development (where as =
before they would potentially take resources away from the player).

Hope that helps...

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com


On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Sanford Redlich wrote:

> Could you give a bit more detail about why they aren't going to compete=20
> with Unity and what that means for AIR development?  Thanks,  - S.
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> On 4/17/2012 11:16 AM, Tony Constantinides wrote:
>>    I was there. Basically Adobe confirmed there moving ahead with Flash =
on
>> Gaming and video (in that order)
>> Lots of new functionality coming out for gaming, with video they
>> concentrating on the big media companies and there needs and screw the
>> little guy.
>>     I understand the direction there going and they may be successful, b=
ut
>> they stated that they cannot please everyone and have to make decisions =
to
>> move ahead. Translation: We reserve the right to screw the community if
>> money is involved.
>>   There acknowledge that they miscommunciated before and claim it will n=
ot
>> happen again. Umm, ok.
>>     They also stated that too many Flash and Flex guys have there head i=
n
>> the sand and now need to learn HTML 5.0 as they see a "huge oppourtunity=
".
>> I noticed they did not mention Flex anymore. My take on all this is sell
>> your Adobe shares while there stil over $30.
>>    Many developers ask how they will expalin to their managers that Flas=
h
>> is not dead. Adobe mumbled something about "technical choice" and
>> "alternatives". Its pretty clear that the engineers at Adobe have NEVER =
had
>> to explain to non-technical clients about technical direction. They left=
 it
>> to consultants, and exsaperated employees of smal companies. I can only
>> shake my head. It sounds like 10 year olds saying "people will play with=
 me
>> if I still cool".Umm, ok.
>>    They mention there not going to compete with Unity in the gaming fiel=
d,
>> but now they impose this "charge" on high-end gaming because gaming
>> companies say "we do not feel your heart in it, if Adobe is not making
>> money on Flash". I see the logic, and Adobe should make money.
>> I hope that works out for them. I cannot see how though.
>>  I moving on to Android development in Java and so are many of the Flex
>> guys there. What happens to Adobe, I could not care less. I already sold=
 my
>> shares. Just my 2 cents....
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>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Ariel Jakobovits<arieljake@yahoo.com>w=
rote:
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>>> anyone in the bay area attend the future of flash event last night at
>>> adobe?
>>> wondering what was said.
>>>=20
>>> Ariel Jakobovits
>>> Email: arieljake@yahoo.com
>>> Phone: 650-690-2213
>>> Fax: 650-641-0031
>>> Cell: 650-823-8699
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