Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ABF99B36 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71718 invoked by uid 500); 24 Feb 2012 01:31:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71686 invoked by uid 500); 24 Feb 2012 01:31:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71678 invoked by uid 99); 24 Feb 2012 01:31:40 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:31:40 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.181] (HELO exprod6og101.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:31:32 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob101.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT0boXtvZIlHt97o2XY51aH5JFhhV966s@postini.com; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:31:11 PST Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4.adobe.com [193.104.215.14]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q1O1TC0Y023950 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nahub01.corp.adobe.com (nahub01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.97]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q1O1V8Pl012954 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from SJ1SWM219.corp.adobe.com (10.5.77.61) by nahub01.corp.adobe.com (10.8.189.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:31:07 -0800 Received: from NAMBX02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.127.96]) by SJ1SWM219.corp.adobe.com ([fe80::d55c:7209:7a34:fcf7%12]) with mapi; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:31:08 -0800 From: Alex Harui To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:31:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest Thread-Topic: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest Thread-Index: AczyiKsTrrqL5F2pQlusa/N0g3LhoQAC06bM Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.11.0.110726 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2/23/12 4:09 PM, "Scott Delamater" wrote: >>=20 >> I challenge all readers here >>=20 >> Tell me a single feature that Flex needs more than a good designing and >> prototyping tool. >=20 > ... > Personally I'd prioritize and contribute to any of those long before I'd > devote time to a WYSIWYG tool. >=20 The great thing about Apache Flex is that we don't really have to agree on prioritization. If you have time to work on something, you do it. DesignView is a bunch of stuff (Java, SWF, player). Again, because of the overhead of donation, I wouldn't hold my breath because I think those engineers are busy on some tight schedules as well. We can look into donating it (and other plugins), but I still think DesignView needs a serious upgrade as it is currently high maintenance. It is tied to an SDK version and therefore needs upgrading with each release (and we're going to release way more often at Apache) and doesn't support components from different versions. There might be some useful stuff to re-use from what would get donated, but the key piece is probably just how to get the SWF to play within Eclipse. The other key pieces (how to show properties to edit, for example) deserve = a re-think. --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui