Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 431039C79 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43537 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2012 11:34:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43511 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2012 11:34:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43502 invoked by uid 99); 22 Feb 2012 11:34:29 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:34:29 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_FRT_INTEREST X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.136.44.62] (HELO smtp107.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.62) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:34:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 18401 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2012 11:34:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Thread-Topic:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding; b=uOXhrvM2luYEmIC5QsMJoWy2ZHh2malxmVbE0Vakl8VlV2z9NeMR9HZp8FtxK4cIUWqWS1S8Ps15sApLHUO/ftCopcLV8XFtsl2WJprHKjKBrktKpnSfsaK83IT+0L0H1sCn+/OueDofek28WpURU8RL+0wgMa3Rxn6B4PBil8k= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1329910440; bh=/PHasR5FvONJXprm9pUZk2IrJ4te3qdFqXsUyzGz6Ps=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Thread-Topic:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding; b=AOuRWG3IAP/7spcg1jZyFWHjcR5Dt5RbiK51VSYxXoATHm862fMj8AWqTwSia3OuGFQXD1akNV9gPBY7jZoc0+G6dN2WuZKgts2qM8cWl/WpX7ERMfVpWAaJD0tHhgqwuLpH0n95tTpX8BOTNcnOe4l8jDOI12LYhFDI/qXphTM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: XuaU18gVM1kyCikF9baGWAMPi7hYJwbM7t7x8OAVqRNzbQg gBQ4NGCYCCzGsyG8RcSjzUDVxFmRPJTZkV0rcsNdcXW_4_MNuZaAaXIY.hHo 2.6svU68fH2V7rMo.Ba5aYI20.zyg.QKLLbqG6MvJGt6egbOuic9rzUhCmQq Etun9Ll1zXHYuFs1JyjoEPGkuMmW.UzxgSEufAIPH2VBckdDdEUNMD2iU60G TYXigDVrIhat9_dNfdS26ffoOL8B8E2K_woGkxP2vnjUnGJZZP1cvTlL3iyI GfW8fDIKpig_dh.AX.Lm8k.Q_8fV2vpV4qlW7mTFbcq6dkMrcxWCseIjNVE7 6RdWaClHPMKyKla0L3gujnSYWMwZ1WhnXrAipReEkmdlw.T5hiXwTh0nl2Xi njrVVuogxu90.9N4VGQfyT9zIG_Vv7LC5RJjgdV6lEv4VChA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: MhnP.OqswBBKLIJOolZ1V3zWQ_2rJMk- Received: from [192.168.1.83] (hsanchezii@99.23.198.119 with login) by smtp107.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2012 03:34:00 -0800 PST User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.14.0.111121 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:34:03 -0600 Subject: Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest From: Humberto Sanchez II To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 here. I would be willing to spend some time on the DV code. Humberto _________________________________________________ On 2/22/12 4:03 AM, "Dimitri k." wrote: >After the discussion on the ML about the Design View, I thought it would >be=20 >a good idea to ask Deepa at the Flex Paris meeting if Adobe could >consider=20 >to open-source it after the removal from next version of Flash Builder. >Fr=E9d=E9ric Thomas, also on the ML, was quicker than me and ask Deepa about >that. >She said that Adobe hasn't thought about it because they didn't believe >we=20 >were interested, but she was thinking it could be a good idea. >In fact, the Design View is a Flex app, so the community can easily >contribute to it, and legal scrubbing should not be such a drag. > >She concluded that the best thing to make it happen would be to show >interrest for the open-sourcing of DV on this list. > >I know that lots of people don't care about the Design View (I rarely use >it=20 >myself), but here are 4 reasons I think it could be a good move for >Apache=20 >Flex: > >- DV is a great tool to understand the MXML paradigm, particularly for >people coming for a Flash Pro background (timeline+stage), and its >removal=20 >would increase the barrier of entry to Flex. > >- I heard several times about devs for which the DV is central to their >Flex=20 >workflow. It's often the case for heavy form-based application, where >standard Flex components are use exclusively and the Design View help >avoiding "design re-compilation". >In fact, I was told by an Adobe enterprise evangelist that he sold Flex >to=20 >some big companies mainly because of the Design View and the ease they >see=20 >in it to train their employees. > >- DV can be really helpful when designing Mobile apps, because you can >test=20 >quickly your design with different resolutions and orientations > >- If we have access to the Design View code, maybe we could improve it in >a=20 >way that even current Design View haters would use it ;) > >Dimitri K.=20 >