Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E96EC9B30 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 04:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 621 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 04:36:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 552 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 04:36:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 543 invoked by uid 99); 5 Feb 2012 04:36:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 04:36:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of omarg.developer@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 04:36:05 +0000 Received: by werc1 with SMTP id c1so4037714wer.6 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=n7UG2X3748JNAajFhzPvPE33xI3zcbJZTdJE0ICKSmI=; b=RDjSS1v4oOQIv3UfdNJntq4D5QhHpHRK8ftc1eW9Q/1rUAY9OrG/9NORWEZJzkPsgf oQQO1rUB2YAXoCXKyGoZeyU35PlOO1wSDvVGTSxytbt1o/GqfJGqmf4QdkD6i5/ftG23 zT0C4Yt/2XUQCosA2EMA8QwPvjnjCxml65330= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.85 with SMTP id p63mr1427810wei.52.1328416543897; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.8.138 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201F8DA4-B693-4ADC-AEA5-8EB72BC44C3C@classsoftware.com> References: <03f401cce37e$de63d210$9b2b7630$@davidarno.org> <1328395619.2089.6.camel@lapsang> <1328399252.2089.17.camel@lapsang> <7B57D62E-629A-4427-97C5-49F2849550A0@classsoftware.com> <201F8DA4-B693-4ADC-AEA5-8EB72BC44C3C@classsoftware.com> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:35:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning From: Omar Gonzalez To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502da093677d904b83014e9 --00504502da093677d904b83014e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, February 4, 2012, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi Omar, > >> You should check out ext.js if you haven't, they have most of the components Flex has and then some. > I looked at it some time ago and though it was ok however the more recent EJ4 does looks like a vast improvement. I'll look more into it. I still have some issue with lack of tools and language features in JS. I have been coding JS since IE3 days so have a fairly good idea of it's benefits and limitations. If you haven't yet I recommend you try WebStorm or PhpStorm, the code completion and JS introspection is pretty impressive, as the support for Jasmine and qUnit tests. >> The point is that many applications will not use Flex because targetting AVM limits their ability to be on tablets >> and mobile devices as a web application. > > Well not entirely correct you can right now target Android FP (11.1) and you can target iOS and Android via AIR but your right there's no flash player in a browser on iOS. iOS and Android are more about apps and Flex (via AIR) does continue to work there so it may or may not be an issue depending on how you want to distribute your application. That's why I said in web browsers specifically, some apps don't want a native style app, for whatever reason, and Flex not targeting A browser technology outside of AvM is a problem. > >> Compiling to JavaScript would solve that while providing a more robust application framework with type safety to develop in. > I agree there. And we wont have any idea re performance until someone gives it a go. > > Thanks, > Justin Agreed, I'm eager to start some experiments but I'm doing some learning first. -omar --00504502da093677d904b83014e9--