Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D29EF906A for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 01:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20588 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 01:21:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20550 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 01:21:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20542 invoked by uid 99); 5 Feb 2012 01:21:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:21:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.210.47] (HELO mail-pz0-f47.google.com) (209.85.210.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:21:15 +0000 Received: by daln34 with SMTP id n34so1137215dal.6 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.219.232 with SMTP id pr8mr32765036pbc.12.1328404853696; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (124-168-59-214.dyn.iinet.net.au. [124.168.59.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kx17sm26174148pbb.19.2012.02.04.17.20.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:20:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning From: Justin Mclean In-Reply-To: <1328399252.2089.17.camel@lapsang> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:20:54 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B57D62E-629A-4427-97C5-49F2849550A0@classsoftware.com> References: <03f401cce37e$de63d210$9b2b7630$@davidarno.org> <1328395619.2089.6.camel@lapsang> <1328399252.2089.17.camel@lapsang> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, While JS performance has greatly improved over the last few years and in = terms of raw number crunching tests it's probably on par with = ActionScript in the very latest browsers from what I understand the = display performance is not on par with Flash/Flex. Anyone have any = unbiased performance numbers? I certainly don't know of any JS = frameworks out there that are equal in scope or size to the Flex SDK. The Flex framework is heavily optimised towards how the flash player = works (look up the elastic racetrack) and while most of that is under = the hood it still not going to optimised for how JS engines work. It's = not going to be a simple matter of writing a 1-1 cross compiler. I have = no idea how much work it would take to get decent performance from = "FlexJS" across a range of browsers but I'd assume it's not trivial. Do we have an idea when Adobe is going to release Flacon JS to Apache? = =46rom memory it was discussed at the Flex Summit and was something like = 6 months away? I thought the initial focus of this project was to create a build and = apply bug fixes to it. I for one would like to see an working Apache = Flex SDK build as quickly as possible. Thanks, Justin=