Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0E22928C for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58365 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2012 10:18:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 58102 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2012 10:18:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 57993 invoked by uid 99); 6 Feb 2012 10:18:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:18:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of joao.saleiro@webfuel.pt designates 216.154.217.150 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.154.217.150] (HELO webfuel.pt) (216.154.217.150) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:17:50 +0000 Received-SPF: softfail (webfuel.pt: domain of transitioning joao.saleiro@webfuel.pt does not designate 77.54.192.255 as permitted sender) receiver=webfuel.pt; client-ip=77.54.192.255; helo=[192.168.1.71]; envelope-from=joao.saleiro@webfuel.pt; x-software=spfmilter 0.97 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.0.0; Received: from [192.168.1.71] (255.192.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt [77.54.192.255]) by webfuel.pt (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q16AHRjD024073 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:17:28 GMT Message-ID: <4F2FA8B5.5090403@webfuel.pt> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:17:25 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Saleiro?= Organization: Webfuel.pt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Creating Working Groups [Was: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve] References: <6035f101$740f9175$752d89cb$@com> <02d401cce4b5$5d8284b0$18878e10$@davidarno.org> In-Reply-To: <02d401cce4b5$5d8284b0$18878e10$@davidarno.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 06-02-2012 09:54, David Arno wrote: > I struggle with this philosophy. The idea of spending time writing code to > then find out whether people like the idea is very alien to me. I would suggest the creation "working groups" attached to different initiatives related to Apache Flex. I'm sure yet how much how like this idea, but considering how big the SDK is, the amount of teamwork and cooperation needed, and the big number of different initiatives that will appear (some complementing each other, others completely disruptive), I would suggest we could arrange a solution that would help us organize better - creating a working group per initiative could help. What do I mean by an initiaive? (Fictional) Examples: (1) building the next minor version of the SDK (2) building the next major version of the SDK/adding framework-level DI (3) building from scratch a new simpler SDK meant for exporting to javascript (4) implementing missing Spark components (5) creating a Spark Scheduling framework (6) [....] Existing initiatives would be listed in a page on the wiki ("Currently we're working on:") and each one would have: (1) a wiki section used by that working group to document progress, specifications, etc (2) a list of the people that are/were involved in that initiative (3) an area in the whiteboard for sharing code that would be imported to the trunk after accepted (4) a specific subject [TAG] so it could help everyone organizing the Mailing List in topics. Another option would be a different Mailing List for each initiative - it would reduce the S/N level but then it wouldn't enable coordination between initiatives Also, while we wait to have everything in our side, I think we could be doing some progress in: (1) completing the missing Spark components (Carol, could you share them in the whiteboard?) (2) doing some research on what would be needed to create a version of the SDK meant for cross-compiling to JS. In other words, creating a checklist what would and wouldn't work, what are the risks, what features of HTML could we take advantage of, how could we change Spark architecture so it was optimized for HTML, what to do with embedded assets, etc Just my two cents. Jo�o Saleiro