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From Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve
Date Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:09:07 GMT
I think it s important to know his identitity as a community. Flex to me is
framework made to build RIAs on top of the flash player. And there is
nothing wrong with that !!!
The first day we start cross compiling to HTML/JS/CSS  is the  day Flex
will start going away. Because why should one use Flex instead of let s say
Ext-JS or GWT ?

It s not about how many JS there is out there or how active the JS
commnunity is.
 Any Software Engineer worth his money know that JS is a broken platform.
 When it comes to big scale web applications we  always look at what Google
does. If JS was a half good platform they would nt have Closure, the GWT
and now DART.

We as a Flex community should say we build on top on Flash and we are happy
to do so. We dont want to be a new HTML5 library.

2012/2/5 Doug McCune <doug@dougmccune.com>

> >
> > Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing changed. HTML5/JS/CSS
> > stack continues with the same problems and is inferior to what Flex/Flash
> > give us. I think 2013 will be again the same...
> This is incredibly false and shortsighted. In the HTML/JS world an
> INCREDIBLE amount changed in 2012. There was a huge amount of momentum
> around microarchitecture frameworks, Backbone, KnockoutJS, AngularJS,
> BatmanJS, and on and on. Frameworks that also include many UI component
> pieces, such as jQuery, the recently updated Twitter Bootstrap, Sencha's'
> ExtJS, etc. Coffeescript surged in popularity, which addresses many of the
> "JS sucks" arguments that Flash devs often have. NodeJS kept chugging
> along, becoming an actual option for a production server written in JS (and
> of course you can also write your server code with Coffeescript on top of
> Node). JetBrains WebStorm now offers a solid JavaScript IDE. Areas that
> have traditionally been dominated by Flash, like data visualization, are
> being challenged by powerful JS libraries like D3.js (for charting and
> data-viz), and polymaps (for geographic mapping), and WebGL content has
> made impressive advances with libraries like Three.JS.
> Saying nothing changed means you haven't been paying attention. HTML/JS is
> changing faster than almost any other technology stack out there at the
> moment. It has more momentum and developer interest than almost any other
> technology stack. DO NOT write it off as being inferior.

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