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From Keith Sutton <ke...@spoon.as>
Subject Re: [RT]Flex Camps
Date Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:36:50 GMT

Digging through groups.adobe.com I found this guideline: 

What I am trying to develop is what life will be like without Adobe $ or 
presenters around in the not too distant future (months not years). I 
know from people inside that the community team barely exists now and 
little if any funding is being put forward for events. This might change 
for a short period but I believe that will only last as long as it takes 
to ride out the storm created by their PR nightmare.

My experience in the past has been getting $ from Adobe for camps that 
did not sync-up with some marketing campaign they we executing. From 
experience it was not that easy to get things and having been involved 
with organizing camps in San Francisco it was difficult (amazing but true).

I can see an organization like Spoon acting in a role similar to Eclipse 
Foundation and through subscriptions and other fund raising mechanism 
generate enough to support several camps and events a year. That will 
take a little time to get going. Easier stuff is to provide a 
communications and marketing venue to connect with potential event 
sponsors (ecosystem partners, system integrators, ...), streaming, event 
announcement support, etc. Guidelines for events would probably specify 
a certain amount of Flex content, topics, etc.

What are your ideas on guidelines? I am interested particularly because 
you are outside North America.


On 2/12/2012 4:14 PM, James Roland Cabresos wrote:
> The move to Apache also held us off what we've planned also. Hopefully
> having these guidelines we can get a good picture for a Flex Camp and pick
> up where we left off.
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 AM, JP Bader<jp@zavteq.com>  wrote:
>> In Chicago we are hosting Adobe's Christophe Conraets and Digital
>> Primate's Michael Labriola to plug the future of Flex, Spoon, and the
>> future of Adobe's involvement with it.  Before Adobe began the process
>> of moving Flex to Apache, we had actually begun planning a Flex/Flash
>> camp, but have since held off until we have a better idea of where
>> things are going.
>> JP
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski<nicholas@spoon.as>
>> wrote:
>>> James,
>>> I would recommend you talk to the guys at Spoon.  While we haven't ramped
>>> up to do Flex Camps yet, we are in the process of kicking off a roadshow
>>> that may help you out.  Keith is the guy you should be talking to (
>>> keith@spoon.as).  He has been coordinating all of the Spoon UG efforts
>> to
>>> date.
>>> -Nick
>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, James Roland Cabresos<
>> j.cabresos@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes I am a user group manager. I'm not really looking for funding
>> support
>>>> here in Apache, but just information that this community want to push to
>>>> Flex Camps. Yes we have Adobe contacts, but it's kind of different now
>> as
>>>> Flex is on Apache, it's not enough that we only get the information on
>>>> Adobe's side.
>>>> On Sunday, 12 February, 2012 09:27 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
>>>>> On 2/12/2012 4:13 AM, James Roland Cabresos wrote:
>>>>>> A Flex camp is one of the things that markets Flex to a community.
>>>>>> Adobe still are committed to developing the tool for Flex, I assumed
>> that
>>>>>> they will still support these camps. Gathering resources today will
>> be much
>>>>>> more different than it was before.
>>>>>   Do Flex Camps still happen?  I would not expect Adobe to put any
>> effort
>>>>> into any such thing.  Although, I was under the impression Adobe gave
>> very
>>>>> little support to Flex Camps beyond sending a "keynoter" and funds to
>> help
>>>>> secure a "Big enough" location.
>>>>>   I think every Flex user group manager out there is now unsure where
>>>>>> start or how to start. It would be good if we have some guide(WIKI)
>> for
>>>>>> someone who are planning to setup a Flex Camp. What do you think
>>>>>   Are you a User Group Manager?  If so, you should know that you have
>>>>> Adobe Contact and you can ask them about such things.
>>>>>   I don't perceive Apache would support Flex Camps from a funding stand
>>>>> point.  If you want to hold a Flex Camp, I would look towards finding
>> your
>>>>> own Corporate Sponsors.  Or to Spoon.
>> --
>> JP Bader
>> Principal
>> Zavteq, Inc.
>> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
>> 608.692.2468

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