Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A0659924 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15654 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2012 21:57:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15559 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2012 21:57:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15551 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2012 21:57:43 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dougarthur@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.43] (HELO mail-ww0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:36 +0000 Received: by wgbdt11 with SMTP id dt11so8760446wgb.0 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:57:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nt8CZyVCS5opsg1v1EqsPnc72vnxXa7mgT3dfmNNKzY=; b=M3DkMCAdxZfcK7IShG0Baik/lmoyF43OJHNQRTap95Jo+2J3VdorNjonw2HJW2glY8 qBzfGG3ESCTaqXgiLAs6bs3qOZ8zttRDJcIBCZxdxNJTjVNZIUfzPLnjk3VfhDAUCZnb yEIRs1wC+eHQyrpbcAYjUpYjaTP/1Yo/nl2hk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.77.228 with SMTP id v4mr16355878wiw.8.1327355836017; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.95.100 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:57:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0FB1E29C-590D-487F-A556-0598F17366A0@classsoftware.com> References: <0FB1E29C-590D-487F-A556-0598F17366A0@classsoftware.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:57:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: State of the Project From: Doug Arthur To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Justin Mclean w= rote: > Hi Greg, > >> Nope, sorry. You have to be a committer to be able to commit to the >> whiteboard. You can, however, submit patches in Jira. > > Understand. So what's the best way for non committers to submit unit test= s, code samples showing issues or new ideas not all of these things belong = in JIRA. People who are non committers want to contribute as well, and curr= ently there's no way for anyone who is not a committer to become one. > > My =A0current understanding is that JIRA is basically off limits until we= get the Adobe JIRA bugs imported and while hopefully that's going to happe= n this week it's not going to be complete until the end of Feb. Non committ= ers can only comment/provide patches for bugs that have already been import= ed right? > > Thanks, > Justin Since this project is still fresh, and the press isn't even quite ready yet, it's not concrete on how to contribute. Contributions from non-committers, as I understand it, will come in the form of patches submitted to Jira, as stated previously. You can also discuss your ideas and patches on this list and lobby for a committer to take on your patch and actually commit it to the repository. As you become a more avid committer in the community, and it's pretty clear you produce quality code, then at that time it might make sense for PPMC members to vote you in as a committer. It's an approval based on participation and merit, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. As for the fact that we're not quite ready for Jira to be hammered, until Alex @ Adobe can get things going there, we should respect the efforts he is putting in and make all contributions for now on list. Remember, this is a substantial contribution from a very corporate company - this stuff will take time to iron out. We all want to get going, but we also need to be aware of the hurdles the messengers are facing, and give them their respect and time to do what they can with those obstacles. We are here to support them, and definitely don't want to alienate them. Their time is pretty much on a volunteer basis now, so let's not piss them off. :) - Doug