Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 583B399AD for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45187 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2012 08:14:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44696 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2012 08:14:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44673 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2012 08:14:37 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:14:37 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:14:30 +0000 Received: by iabz21 with SMTP id z21so4725290iab.6 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.182.130 with SMTP id ee2mr8595340igc.30.1327306449620; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (S0106001617bba86c.du.shawcable.net. [70.67.185.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g34sm44363398ibk.10.2012.01.23.00.14.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:14:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F1D16D0.5050802@spoon.as> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:14:08 -0800 From: Keith Sutton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [Automation] Will References: In-Reply-To: X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkqu+E6W4ycTF9yGCkWcMmY5VsQ5aHOjNA2Ar1FNJxD7J3XyNmoQdDbTmCkaDX1iTe656fz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex, You mention 'business kinks' in regards to automation. It would be unfortunate for this project to loose that capability in the framework due to business reasons. The automation library is fairly old (in internet terms) and used by a lot of Flex customers and testing tool/service providers (8-10 of them if not more). With Monocle ramping up as a product it would be sad to see the Apache Flex testing ecosystem being disseminated for it's commercial sake when there is no real competitor to it (even with automation). Is there a need to raise this issue collectively with decision makers involved in the 'business kinks' to influence this decision? On 1/22/2012 9:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > On 1/22/12 9:22 AM, "Tink" wrote: > >> If automation is missing in our first release, wouldn't that break all >> automation testing that companies have invested in? > Yes, and we would note that in the release notes. I think we'd have to > lower our goal of the first release to not be something that EVERY person > using Adobe Flex can replace. I certainly wouldn't want to hold up releases > of everything else while we work out the legal and business kinks on > automation. >