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charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I second that=2E=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AE=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AEspen Skogen | Vice Presi= dent | IB Tech Market | Investment Bank | J=2EP=2E Morgan | 125 London Wall= , EC2Y 5AJ, London, United Kingdom | T: +442077420836 | espen=2Eskogen@jpm= organ=2Ecom | jpmorgan=2Ecom=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original Message-----=0D= =0AFrom: Rui Silva [mailto:flex@rduartes=2Enet] =0D=0ASent: 11 January 2012= 02:05=0D=0ATo: flex-dev@incubator=2Eapache=2Eorg=0D=0ASubject: Raising bar= riers=0D=0A=0D=0AHi,=0D=0A=0D=0AIt's about 2 o'clock in the morning here i= n Portugal and I just went =0D=0Athrough the last of today's (yesterday's?)= posts on the mailing list and I =0D=0Amust confess that having gone throug= h them all in a short period of time it =0D=0Adoes look like we're trying r= eally hard to find ways this project could or =0D=0Ashould fail=2E=0D=0A=0D= =0ADon't get me wrong, I love things being discussed in the list (The curre= nt =0D=0Adiscussion around the component model is a bliss to read), but the= re's a =0D=0Alot of other stuff that seems to raise more barriers than to a= ctually find =0D=0Athe energy to move forward=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ACome on guys! T= his is our project now! We'll make it whatever we want it to =0D=0Abe=2E Th= ere's no need to dig up old ghosts and try to reason out some things =0D=0A= that are unreasonable, largely by nature=2E And we need a lot of momentum, = we =0D=0Acan't afford to wander off and spend time and energy on incidental= facts=2E =0D=0AThe world is looking at us right now! They're anxious to se= e what comes out =0D=0Aof here and we're charged with the gigantic task of = keep this behemoth =0D=0Acalled Flex alive and make it even better so that = it can survive in a =0D=0Achanging world=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AI'll take this chanc= e to make a statement of intent: I will not engage nor =0D=0Aanswer to thre= ads that basically deal with things that have no real =0D=0Ainfluence on th= e immediate future of Flex and how we can bring that to =0D=0Afruition=2E M= y time is too precious and instead of doing that I'll try to =0D=0Afind way= s to fix and improve this awesome applications development =0D=0Aframework = (any mention to RIA, Web or any other specification intentionally =0D=0Alef= t out)!=0D=0A=0D=0AI'm here to stay and I'll dedicate as much of me as I ca= n spare to help out =0D=0Athe Flex community=2E If I may so bold to do so, = I'd ask everyone to recheck =0D=0Atheir commitment to the project and decid= e if and how they wish to be here =0D=0Atoo=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ASorry if I'm soun= ding a bit dramatical, but I sincerely think that right =0D=0Anow, we're th= e biggest menace to Flex's survival=2E Fortunately we're it =0D=0Agreatest = hope too, so let's make that happen=2E Alex and Carol, not to put =0D=0Amor= e pressure on the amazing effort you guys are already doing, but we =0D=0Ar= eally need that code and JIRA ported as soon as humanly possible=2E I have = =0D=0Acomplete faith that you will do your absolute best=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AChee= rs,=0D=0ARui =0D=0A=0D=0AThis email is confidential and subject to importan= t disclaimers and=0D=0Aconditions including on offers for the purchase or s= ale of=0D=0Asecurities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses,= =0D=0Aconfidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers,=0D=0A= available at http://www=2Ejpmorgan=2Ecom/pages/disclosures/email=2E