Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B551F9A3D for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43083 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2012 23:56:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43021 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2012 23:56:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43013 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2012 23:56:24 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:56:24 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [69.167.147.50] (HELO franklin.liquidweb.com) (69.167.147.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53860) by franklin.liquidweb.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl81L-0000xI-B0 for flex-dev@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:55:55 -0500 Received: from 66.153.67.146 ([66.153.67.146]) by www.teotigraphix.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:55:55 -0500 Message-ID: <20120111185555.110523njxnzi0mtn@www.teotigraphix.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:55:55 -0500 From: Michael Schmalle To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr References: <628BC539-7339-4363-9518-56907E1872F4@gmail.com> <20120111181515.17152x1menkxc8oz@www.teotigraphix.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - franklin.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - teotigraphix.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Quoting Sebastian Mohr : > @Mike ... thank you for your quick response! > > Sure it looks very familiar ... but this is on purpose ... maybe > just changing the colors could make it different and will remove > these trademark/copyright issues ... but I have to stop here, > because, I am not a designer ;) > > More important was the text I have written: > > 'For me, the new Flex logo should send a promising sign to all those > companies who have lost money, and, to all Flex developers who got > fired during the last couple of weeks. "Stability over Philosophy" should > be the credo of this new logo, and, the message of the new Apache Flex > logo should be clear and simple: > > "Flex is still Flex, and, now even better managed by Apache"' > > When moving dramatically far away from the original logo design could > lead to the impression that Apache Flex is something completely different > in the hands of Apache ... and managers and investor, who might have no > idea about the internals of Flex and just see the logo, might > hesitate to draw > their wallets. > > As mentioned before "Flex will not survive without those investors". > > > -- Sebastian > > > As mentioned before "Flex will not survive without those investors". I think the whole idea of Apache Flex is to gain new investors as well, and that needs to be seen as something new, so a new logo that departs drastically from Adobes can only be seen as a move in the right direction in my opinion. Mike