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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Committer duties and information
Date Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:08:47 GMT
Hi Greg,

Regarding Spoon, are there things an Apache project typically does not do
that Spoon or some other entity should be doing?  Like promotion, education,
training etc.?


On 1/4/12 12:40 PM, "Greg Reddin" <gredbug@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Jonathan Campos <jonbcampos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> @Greg
>> http://www.spoon.as/
>> Spoon is a nonprofit corporation created by some community members to
>> promote, educate, and contribute to the Flex framework. From the link you
>> can see basic bits of information and specifically read the core values.
>> Some of this data needs to be updated as it was written before the Flex
>> Summit but I'm sure you can get more than the gist of it.
>> HTH
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> So for practical reasons, I think we're going to start with
>>> commit-then-review.
>>> If you try to commit a new component, that commit will be reviewed and
>>> vetoed out if there is a problem.
>>> So let's get specific.  Let's say you want to contribute your version of a
>>> Spark TabNavigator component.  Adobe has almost finished its version and
>>> promised to commit it.  I would recommend starting a discussion on this
>>> list
>>> about whether to take yours vs Adobe's.  That way you'll at least have an
>>> idea whether folks are willing to review your version or want to wait for
>>> Adobe.  Then if you do decide to commit, we'll take a harder look at the
>>> code and maybe you'll get rejected if we find some major problem, but
>>> otherwise it gets in.  And if folks want to wait for Adobe and you
>>> disagree,
>>> you can offer it up under a different package name.  I suppose someone
>>> might
>>> still try to veto that based on confusing folks about which TabNavigator to
>>> use, so that might be worth discussing up front as well, but I personally
>>> don't have a problems with different flavors of components.
>>> -Alex
>>> On 1/4/12 12:19 PM, "Michael Schmalle" <mike@teotigraphix.com> wrote:
>>>> Quoting Jonathan Campos <jonbcampos@gmail.com>:
>>>>> That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically
>>> for
>>>>> the group.
>>>>> Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer.
>>>>> The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not running
>>> a
>>>>> business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what they
>>>>> are doing, they aren't there to be given tasks.
>>>>> As such there is no roadmap. You may come up with a great idea and start
>>>>> working on it, then when other people see what you are doing they may
>>> join.
>>>>> Over time your idea snowballs and gets added in, but this doesn't mean
>>> that
>>>>> there is a formal roadmap for people to sit at and program away against.
>>>>> However this is where Spoon comes in. We do have plans and roadmaps of
>>>>> features we want to add. Some take time and require people. If you are
>>>>> interested in our roadmap (our party) you and anyone else is free to
>>> join.
>>>>> Make sense?
>>>>> J
>>>> This actually does make sense for features.
>>>> So can I ask this, am I to then just look at the bug base, say hey
>>>> that looks like something I can fix, fix it then commit it?
>>>> Don't jump on this to quick, I am saying there needs to be a unit
>>>> test? I remember Alex saying that Apache is usually commit & review
>>>> but that they were trying for a review and commit in the beginning.
>>>> Has anybody else heard this?
>>>> Does there have to be votes on say a new component that would be added
>>>> to the SDK? I'm really just trying to understand the algorithm of
>>>> develop/test/fix/commit for an initial committer.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>> --
>>> Alex Harui
>>> Flex SDK Team
>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>> --
>> Jonathan Campos
>> Dallas Flex User Group Manager
>> http://www.d-flex.org/
>> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos

Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.

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