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From Csomák Gábor <csom...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: my suggestions
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:20:09 GMT
thanks for the detailed explanation.

2012/1/10 Raju Bitter <rajubitter@googlemail.com>

> 2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <csomakk@gmail.com>:
> > sorry for starting a flame war.
> You didn't start a flame war. :-)
> > i just meant, that if flash really dies
> > (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in
> javascript
> > is not an option.
> Have you seen the Falcon JS demos in the Flex Summit video?
> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/flex-community-summit-december-2011/open-discussion-about-falcon-and-falconjs/
> Adobe has basic cross-compilation of simple demo apps from
> ActionScript to JavaScript working, but they call the feature
> "experimental". Skip ahead to 10 min into the presentation to see the
> demos.
> > i meant we need to show, that there is place for both flash and html5.
> the
> > two things is completely different. html5 has a canvas tag. so what?
> flash
> > has a webview component.
> > but if the people hear every day that flash is dead, they won't pay for a
> > flash ria, even if it would be faster, better, cheaper.  please don't
> take
> > it as an offense, i'm not fighting, it was my toughs. I'm young, so i
> can be
> > wrong :)
> You are not wrong. Flash is a solid technology, although it seems that
> it's difficult to innovate the Flash Player as quickly as JavaScript
> VMs at the moment. Which maybe has to do with the quite amazing
> feature, that you can take SWF files which were created 7-8 years ago
> and still run them in Flash Player for Android.
> Quoting the Adobe Flex Team blog: "In the long-term, we believe HTML5
> will be the best technology for enterprise application development."
> So where will Flex be in the long-term? If you want to deploy
> applications written in ActionScript cross-compiled into JavaScript in
> 1-2 years from now, you might just want to start thinking about how
> you could achieve that now.
> I know enough "enterprise" applications written in JavaScript. Take
> Google Apps, works very well for me - in a range of browsers and
> across operating systems. Sure, Google has invested a lot of money
> into creating enterprise-level JavaScript technology stacks (Google
> Closure Tools http://code.google.com/closure/), but other companies
> have been equally successful doing it. I don't think it's true that
> you cannot build enterprise applications running in the browser using
> JavaScript - but you have to be careful in selecting the right tools.
> And Apache Flex could be such a technology - maybe not in 6 months
> from now, but in 12-15 months.
> Peace,
> Raju

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