From user-return-615-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@fineract.apache.org Thu Jun 28 13:44:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DCA118066B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:44:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 23801 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jun 2018 11:44:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@fineract.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@fineract.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@fineract.apache.org Received: (qmail 23792 invoked by uid 99); 28 Jun 2018 11:44:10 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 11:44:10 +0000 Received: from mail-ua0-f176.google.com (mail-ua0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 2CAC5478 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 11:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 59-v6so3337895uas.5 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0a967X1vLIScNKYhBjRkU4WmV9WhOWCJKLdPndAeDfAYsbAkez Cb4K6j9ksyqXxlEZmsjDTjlMYy2m3lqNFkpGyopWRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeM/7244viEfKfb1PNuyGH9aI7JQXYF1j+z2NNyUvi1D2aaJX1PVfARd040hAhR3HsTWWg7BPQZjgH4kK34brc= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:25f2:: with SMTP id 105-v6mr5065029uaf.68.1530186248054; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <007d01d40e36$62baf730$2830e590$@skyburgsystems.org> <968146031.345935.1530128129102.JavaMail.zimbra@singo.africa> <000801d40eab$3bce4f80$b36aee80$@skyburgsystems.org> <1130039647.730.1530179564889.JavaMail.zimbra@singo.africa> In-Reply-To: <1130039647.730.1530179564889.JavaMail.zimbra@singo.africa> From: Markus Geiss Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:43:57 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like to generate from Android Field Officer App? To: dev@fineract.apache.org Cc: mifos-users , mifos-developer , user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c18024056fb23fe1" --000000000000c18024056fb23fe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey all, I second Jubha's opinion. If we build an app for a loan officer, the functionality should be gathered around these requirements not adding additional features just because another user group may use the app and would like to see something else. If the senior management is looking for special purpose reports we should consider build an app or portal for this case. Keep the app focused and simple for the audience it is built for. Cheers Markus .::Yagni likes a DRY KISS::. On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:53 AM Sendoro Juma wrote: > Hello Jubha, > > Thanks it is clear and damn right, the other reports which are not > requested used by loan officer or targeting loan officers should then be > under category others... > > Solution should be extremely simple and intuitive to the intended user > first!!!! > > Priorities and Focus is an important element in product design I > believe!!! > > And of course it should allow others to use in-frequent used features > etc... Usually these loading of all features they end-up making solution > seen by user as heavy. > > Regards > Sendoro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jubha mayala" > To: "mifos-users" > Cc: "dev" , "mifos-developer" < > mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>, "user" > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:49:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like > to generate from Android Field Officer App? > > Hi All, > The Android app is for Loan officers, but as long as is to be used in smart > phones even the senior level people will use it/ are using it, which means > the reports mentioned by Sifiso are still a plus to be included into the > new Android app! > > Jubha! > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:42 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Sendoro, > > > > > > > > The reason why I included the accounting reports is because we added the > > accounting module to the android app to add journal entries. This was > > designed to pay for small remittances like traveling costs, stationery, > > airtime ..etc Income and expenditure and balance sheet might be > resourceful > > to develop. But the general ledger might be required for a loan officer > to > > account for his or her expenses. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Sifiso > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Sendoro Juma > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:35 PM > > *To:* mifos-developer > > *Cc:* mifos-users ; user < > > user@fineract.apache.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [Mifos-users] [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you > > like to generate from Android Field Officer App? > > > > > > > > Hello Sifiso, > > > > > > > > I would draw the requirements from the role of the user!!! > > > > > > > > I consider this person will be *loan officer* if that is the case... > > > > > > > > Then I see some reports you listed below is overkill. > > > > > > > > Regards > > Sendoro > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From: *sifiso@skyburgsystems.org > > *To: *"mifos-developer" > > *Cc: *"mifos-users" , "user" < > > user@fineract.apache.org> > > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:46:20 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like to generate > > from Android Field Officer App? > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > > > Here is a list of reports we feel are a priority for the android app. > > > > Balance Outstanding loans > > > > Expected payments (with missed installment column) > > > > General ledger > > > > Arrears report > > > > Collections report (with payment type column) > > > > Client listing report (with gender, address and mobile number) > > > > Disbursal report > > > > Income and expediture (if accounting module is to be included) > > > > Balance sheet (if accounting module is to be included) > > > > > > > > PDF is ideal but if the reports can be viewed in app and also as a PDF > > that would be great. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Sifiso > > > > > > > > *From:* Ed Cable > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:33 AM > > *To:* Mifos software development >; > > user@fineract.apache.org; mifos-users >; > > RM ; Aksh Gautam > > *Subject:* [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like to generate > > from Android Field Officer App? > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Aksh, as part of his GSOC project working Android Field Officer App 5.0, > > is working on generating reports from the mobile field operations app. > We'd > > like for any partners or financial institutions to share which reports > > they'd like to be able to generate and view from the mobile field > > operations app. > > > > > > > > In order to optimize viewing of the report on a mobile device, we'll also > > need to re-design these existing reports so please also share what > > information you'd like to display in the report and we'll design and > build > > a new report specific to mobile devices. > > > > > > > > Also, what format would you like to view the report - just be displayed > in > > the app or downloaded as PDF. > > > > > > > > Tarun, can you share how far you got in your implementation last year? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > Mifos-developer mailing list > > mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net > > Unsubscribe or change settings at: > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mifos-developer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Mifos-users mailing list > > Mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mifos-users > > > > > --000000000000c18024056fb23fe1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey all,

I second Jubha's op= inion. If we build an app for a loan officer, the functionality should be g= athered around these requirements not adding additional features just becau= se another user group may use the app and would like to see something else.=

If the senior management is looking for special purpose repor= ts we should consider build an app or portal for this case.

=
Ke= ep the app focused and simple for the audience it is built for.

Cheers

Markus

.::Yagni likes a DRY KISS::.
<= /div>
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 a= t 11:53 AM Sendoro Juma <sendoro@singo.africa> wrote:
Hello Jubha,

Thanks it is clear and damn right, the other reports which are not requeste= d used by loan officer or targeting loan officers=C2=A0 should then be unde= r category others...

Solution should be extremely simple and intuitive to the intended user firs= t!!!!

Priorities and Focus is an important element in product design I believe!!!=

And of course it should allow others to use in-frequent used features etc..= . Usually these loading of all features they end-up making solution seen by= user as heavy.

Regards
Sendoro

----- Original Message -----
From: "jubha mayala" <basstone40@gmail.com>
To: "mifos-users" <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: "dev" <dev@fineract.apache.org>, "mifos-developer" &l= t;mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>, "user" <user@fineract.apac= he.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:49:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like t= o generate from Android Field Officer App?

Hi All,
The Android app is for Loan officers, but as long as is to be used in smart=
phones even the senior level people will use it/ are using it, which means<= br> the reports mentioned by Sifiso are still a plus to be included into the new Android app!

Jubha!

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:42 AM, <sifiso@skyburgsystems.org> wrote:

> Hi Sendoro,
>
>
>
> The reason why I included the accounting reports is because we added t= he
> accounting module to the android app to add journal entries. This was<= br> > designed to pay for small remittances like traveling costs, stationery= ,
> airtime ..etc Income and expenditure and balance sheet might be resour= ceful
> to develop. But the general ledger might be required for a loan office= r to
> account for his or her expenses.
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Sifiso
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sendoro Juma <sendoro@singo.africa>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:35 PM
> *To:* mifos-developer <mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>= ;
> *Cc:* mifos-users <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>; user <=
> user@fin= eract.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mifos-users] [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you=
> like to generate from Android Field Officer App?
>
>
>
> Hello Sifiso,
>
>
>
> I would draw the requirements from the role of the user!!!
>
>
>
> I consider this person will be *loan officer* if that is the case... >
>
>
> Then I see some reports you listed below is overkill.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Sendoro
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *sifiso@skyburgsystems.org
> *To: *"mifos-developer" <mifos-developer@lists.sourceforg= e.net>
> *Cc: *"mifos-users" <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>= ;, "user" <
> user@fin= eract.apache.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:46:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like to gener= ate
> from Android Field Officer App?
>
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
>
>
> Here is a list of reports we feel are a priority for the android app.<= br> >
> Balance Outstanding loans
>
> Expected payments (with missed installment column)
>
> General ledger
>
> Arrears report
>
> Collections report (with payment type column)
>
> Client listing report (with gender, address and mobile number)
>
> Disbursal report
>
> Income and expediture (if accounting module is to be included)
>
> Balance sheet (if accounting module is to be included)
>
>
>
> PDF is ideal but if the reports can be viewed in app and also as a PDF=
> that would be great.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sifiso
>
>
>
> *From:* Ed Cable <edcable@mifos.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:33 AM
> *To:* Mifos software development <mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge= .net>;
> user@fin= eract.apache.org; mifos-users <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>= ;
> RM <r= ajanmaurya154@gmail.com>; Aksh Gautam <gaksh007@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Mifos-developer] Which reports would you like to generate<= br> > from Android Field Officer App?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Aksh, as part of his GSOC project working Android Field Officer App 5.= 0,
> is working on generating reports from the mobile field operations app.= We'd
> like for any partners or financial institutions to share which reports=
> they'd like to be able to generate and view from the mobile field<= br> > operations app.
>
>
>
> In order to optimize viewing of the report on a mobile device, we'= ll also
> need to re-design these existing reports so please also share what
> information you'd like to display in the report and we'll desi= gn and build
> a new report specific to mobile devices.
>
>
>
> Also, what format would you like to view the report - just be displaye= d in
> the app or downloaded as PDF.
>
>
>
> Tarun, can you share how far you got in your implementation last year?=
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm= _medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_= content=3Demailclient>
>
> Virus-free. www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm= _medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_= content=3Demailclient>
>
>
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