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Given that the current accounting and ledger system is not made for a real teller service, we will respect this with the work we are doing for the next generation of Mifos. All enhancements and additional requirements will be implemented in the new framework, allowing way more flexibility than today. Saying this, the current implementation of teller management serves the purpose it was made for, just customer facing cash transactions, and will be delivered as is. Best wishes, *Markus Geiss* Chief Architect R=C9=85=C4=90=C9=85=D0=AF, The Mifos Initiative mgeiss@mifos.org | Skype: mgeiss.mifos.org | Mobil: +49.152.295.05306 | http://mifos.org On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Ed Cable wrote: > Zayyad, > > Dayna along with Robert Ippez is working on specifications for an enhance= d > teller cash management module. I'm glad to see that we have so many > community members with a need for it along with such valuable input. I'll > have her share a draft of the specification when it's ready so everyone c= an > give input and feedback on the requirements. > > Cheers, > > Ed > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Sendoro juma wrote= : > >> Dear Zayyad, >> I see a room for improvement, may be branch this way! >> Transactions - Clients - Office >> Best RegardsSendoro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM +0300, "Zayyad A. Said" < >> zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault= . >> >> >> >> I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having >> it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just >> using payment type of cash. >> >> >> >> My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their >> own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer o= r >> GL account. >> >> >> >> If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes >> useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take >> cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank. >> >> >> >> Regards; >> >> >> >> ******* >> >> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O >> >> >> >> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011 >> >> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com] >> Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12 >> To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development >> Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said >> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio >> Entries >> >> >> >> Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the >> cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out) >> usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All >> daily transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses ar= e >> done thru the tellers.. >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" >> wrote: >> >> Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done >> from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it work= s >> in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the >> transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with >> denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry. >> >> Thank you >> Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Zayyad A. Said" >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50 >> To: ; 'Mifos software development'< >> mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>; > .org> >> Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio >> Entries >> >> I think it does make sense. >> >> Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the >> cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don=E2=80=99t you = think the >> cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till= ? >> >> I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how >> should this be handled? >> >> Regards; >> >> ******* >> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O >> >> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011 >> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com] >> Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15 >> To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio >> Entries >> >> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer >> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal... >> Best Regards >> Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Zayyad A. Said" >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57 >> To: ; >> >> Reply-To: Mifos software development > orge.net> >> Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------------- >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging >> tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------------- >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging >> tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot Mifos-developer >> mailing >> list mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net >> Unsubscribe or change settings at: >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mifos-developer >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> Mifos-developer mailing list >> mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net >> Unsubscribe or change settings at: >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mifos-developer >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *Ed Cable* > Director of Community Programs, Mifos Initiative > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > Mifos-developer mailing list > mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net > Unsubscribe or change settings at: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mifos-developer > --94eb2c125258f7b30d053e4577f1--