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Said" To: "'mitos imperial'" , , "'Mifos software development'" Cc: References: <006701d22018$3b893f40$b29bbdc0$@intrasofttechnologies.com> <156634113-1475795680-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-807346885-@b18.c1.bise7.blackberry> <000c01d22054$6d946870$48bd3950$@intrasofttechnologies.com> <880499503-1475816688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1572152839-@b18.c1.bise7.blackberry> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 08:19:05 +0300 Message-ID: <002c01d2205a$558aa220$009fe660$@intrasofttechnologies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01D22073.7ADB5C90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKRP1umh4ryauMYVgXGsTLrXtR7yAFs/aVfAYptMSEBJnfWFAIRNG8anuy7sUA= Content-Language: en-gb archived-at: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 05:19:18 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01D22073.7ADB5C90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01D22073.7ADB5C90" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01D22073.7ADB5C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main = vault. =20 I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having = it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just = using payment type of cash. =20 My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their = own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer = or GL account. =20 If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes = useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take = cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank. =20 Regards; =20 ******* Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O =20 Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011 Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com=20 =20 Email banner =20 From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12 To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio = Entries =20 Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the = cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out) = usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All = daily transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses = are done thru the tellers.. =20 On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" = wrote: Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done = from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it = works in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the = vault, the transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance = along with denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger = journal entry. Thank you Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone -----Original Message----- From: "Zayyad A. Said" Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50 To: ; 'Mifos software = development'; = Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio = Entries I think it does make sense. Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don=E2=80=99t you = think the cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the = till? I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how should this be handled? Regards; ******* Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: = zsaid2011 Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com=20 -----Original Message----- From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com] Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15 To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio = Entries As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal... Best Regards Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone -----Original Message----- From: "Zayyad A. 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Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main = vault.

 

I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. = Having it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than = just using payment type of cash.

 

My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have = their own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either = customer or GL account.

 

If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes = useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take = cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or = bank.

 

Regards;

 

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Za= yyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

 

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From:= mitos = imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 October = 2016 08:12
To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software = development
Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. = Said
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non = Portfolio Entries

 

Best business practices would = dictate that only cahier has access to the cash vault..transactions are = limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out) usually involving cash = requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All daily  = transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are done = thru the tellers..

 

On Oct = 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <serge.amegavie@ovamba.com&g= t; wrote:

Yes I understand, but it = will not be affected if the transaction is done from the main vault, not = from the cashier... In fact that is how it works in my particular = zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the transaction show = at the main vault and affect it balance along with denomination and the = payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.

Thank = you
Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone

-----Original = Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <zayyad@intrasofttechnolo= gies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
To: <serge.amegavie@ovamba.com&g= t;; 'Mifos software development'<mifos-developer@lis= ts.sourceforge.net>; <dev@fineract.incubator.= apache.org>
Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier = Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

I think it does make = sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash = position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash = don=E2=80=99t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than = what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers = tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be = handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman = & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 = 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnolo= gies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: = Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]<= br>Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.= apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - = Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" = transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure = this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from = my BlackBerry=C2=AE smartphone

-----Original = Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <zayyad@intrasofttechnolo= gies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
To: <dev@fineract.incubator.= apache.org>;
<mifos-developer@lis= ts.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: Mifos software development = <mifos-developer@lis= ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier = Transactions - Non Portfolio = Entries

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