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From Markus Geiß <mge...@mifos.org>
Subject Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
Date Fri, 07 Oct 2016 12:22:49 GMT
Hey all,

just a heads up.

Given that the current accounting and ledger system is not made for a real
teller service, we will respect this with the work we are doing for the
next generation of Mifos.

All enhancements and additional requirements will be implemented in the new
framework, allowing way more flexibility than today.

Saying this, the current implementation of teller management serves the
purpose it was made for, just customer facing cash transactions, and will
be delivered as is.

Best wishes,


*Markus Geiss*
Chief Architect
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Ed Cable <edcable@mifos.org> wrote:

> Zayyad,
>
> Dayna along with Robert Ippez is working on specifications for an enhanced
> teller cash management module. I'm glad to see that we have so many
> community members with a need for it along with such valuable input. I'll
> have her share a draft of the specification when it's ready so everyone can
> give input and feedback on the requirements.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Sendoro juma <sendoro@singo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>> Dear Zayyad,
>> I see a room for improvement, may be branch this way!
>> Transactions  - Clients                        - Office
>> Best RegardsSendoro
>>
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>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM +0300, "Zayyad A. Said" <
>> zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote:
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>> Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault.
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>> I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having
>> it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just
>> using payment type of cash.
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>>
>>
>> My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their
>> own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer or
>> GL account.
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>> If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes
>> useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take
>> cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards;
>>
>>
>>
>> *******
>>
>> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>>
>>
>>
>> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
>>
>> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
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>> From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12
>> To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development
>> Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said
>> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>>
>>
>> Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the
>> cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out)
>> usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All
>> daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are
>> done thru the tellers..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <serge.amegavie@ovamba.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done
>> from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works
>> in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the
>> transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with
>> denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com>
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
>> To: <serge.amegavie@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<
>> mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>; <dev@fineract.incubator.apache
>> .org>
>> Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>> I think it does make sense.
>>
>> Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
>> cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
>> cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?
>>
>> I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
>> should this be handled?
>>
>> Regards;
>>
>> *******
>> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>>
>> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
>> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
>> Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
>> To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
>> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
>> Best Regards
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com>
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
>> To: <dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
>> <mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Reply-To: Mifos software development <mifos-developer@lists.sourcef
>> orge.net>
>> Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
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