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From "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>
Subject Re: System packages should not contain osgi.core packages (packages that are exported by the framework)
Date Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:38:39 GMT
I think it is reasonable to allow someone to hide exports from the 
system bundle, but that doesn't mean that this process couldn't be 
improved. For example, we could introduce a new variable 
${framework-exports} as an alias to what the framework exports, so then 
in our default properties file the system.packages could be written 
something like this:

org.osgi.framework.system.packages= ${dollar}{framework-exports} \

Thus making it easier for people who want to override system.packages by 
using our alias.

Of course, though, if you just want to add stuff to system packages, 
then you should be using system.packages.extra like others have suggested.

-> richard

On 10/27/15 10:21 , David Bosschaert wrote:
> Yes, that's precisely what the
> org.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra was designed for. That way
> you don't need to remember what the framework puts on
> org.osgi.framework.system.packages in order to augment it.
> Best regards,
> David
> On 27 October 2015 at 14:18, Andy Lee <thelees.andy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you are trying to extend the set of packages exported by the system
>> bundle, you should use org.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra.  By
>> specifying org.osgi.framework.system.packages you are overriding the
>> default value used by the framework, and hence must include the packaged
>> that are expected to be supplied by the framework.
>> See
>> https://osgi.org/javadoc/r5/core/org/osgi/framework/Constants.html#FRAMEWORK_SYSTEMPACKAGES
>> --Andy
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Balázs Zsoldos <balazs.zsoldos@everit.biz>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I asked this 1-2 years ago, but I think it is worthy to  ask it again.
>>> Are you sure that the set of system packages should include the OSGi core
>>> packages?
>>> In my understanding:
>>>     - system packages are the ones coming from outside of the OSGi container
>>>     - osgi core packages are offered by the framework bundle, but they are
>>>     not system packages
>>> In practice:
>>>     - If I specify org.osgi.system.packages property for equinox, I do not
>>>     have to define the packages implemented by the framework
>>>     - If I specify the same property for felix, I must copy-paste the
>>>     packages of osgi.core always
>>> Do you think there is a use-case when osgi.core packages offered by the
>>> framework should be excluded from the exported packages of the system
>>> bundle? I think Equinox has the right behavior here.
>>> Do you see any chance to change this behavior in the future?
>>> Kind regards,
>>> *Balázs **Zsoldos*
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