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From Neil Bartlett <njbartl...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: A couple of Felix Web Console questions
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:08:12 GMT
I have raised FELIX-3773 to track this issue.

Regards
Neil

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Neil Bartlett <njbartlett@gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin,
>
> Wow, yes, I hadn't spotted that. It's was so much more obvious in 4.0...
>
> Houston, we have a problem!
>
> Neil
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Justin Edelson <justin@justinedelson.com>wrote:
>
>> Neil-
>> Unfortunately, the same license applies to the json.org code embedded in
>> WebConsole 3.0.0 through 3.1.8.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Neil Bartlett <njbartlett@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Felix,
>> >
>> > I will not be able to use your aggregated bundle, and I think Graham
>> would
>> > not be able to either. The problem is the license for the "org.json"
>> > package which you are proposing to embed and export, which contains the
>> > following unfortunate sentence:
>> >
>> >     "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil"
>> >
>> > While that may sound reasonable, I wish you luck finding two lawyers who
>> > agree on the definitions of "good" and "evil".
>> >
>> > This dependency is why I cannot use Webconsole 4.0, whether or not you
>> > import the package or export yourself.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Neil
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Graham Charters <gcharters@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks, all, for the helpful info.  Felix, fwiw, I like your proposal.
>> >  The
>> > > purist in me doesn't particularly like aggregate bundles, but the
>> > > pragmatist accepts that they have a place.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding org.json, I looked for the Geronimo bundled version, and
>> there
>> > > was one, but it was for a later version of the library (2009... not
>> > 2007).
>> > >  I've not tried building Web Console 4.0.0, so don't know what maven
>> > would
>> > > actually find and use.
>> > >
>> > > Regards, Graham.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 21 November 2012 10:44, Darren <darrenslists@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > In the interest of fast deployment, I suggest the Felix project
>> > > revisits
>> > > > this and comes up with a webconsole-all bundle, which exports
>> org.json,
>> > > > Commons IO and Commons FileUpload for ease of deployment. For more
>> > > > controlled, supported, or resource constrained we still have the
>> > default
>> > > > bundle, which only imports.
>> > > >
>> > > > For my (newcomer) situation, that would be ideal as bundles that
>> work
>> > out
>> > > > of the box are more likely to get me experimenting with them.
>> > > >
>> > > > Documentation akin to what PAX web uses would also be helpful.  They
>> > have
>> > > > multiple bundles, but explain what each one is for, before
>> introducing
>> > > the
>> > > > bundled bundle (pax-web-jetty-bundle).
>> > > > http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/paxweb/Artifacts
>> > > >
>> > > > If Web Console followed a similar strategy, it would also be useful
>> to
>> > > > include more detailed instructions on how to meet the extra
>> > dependencies
>> > > > (as they are not all produced by the Web Console team).  The Felix
>> > > commons
>> > > > project looks like the right place to link to download from, but
>> their
>> > > > documentation doesn't include download links.
>> > > > http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-commons.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Would it be possible to get json into Felix commons as well?
>> > > >
>> > > > If you don't have any influence over the Felix commons project,
>> hosting
>> > > > the pom files you contributed to it would allow users to build the
>> > > > dependency bundles themselves.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Darren
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> >
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