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From Matt Madhavan <mattmadha...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Debugging OSGi bundles(Feliix vs Karaf) and PaxExam
Date Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:14:39 GMT
Hi Andreas,
Than you very much for the reply! I appreciate it. Can you point me to some
documentation regarding installing Karaf and Karaf and Eclipse Integration
etc. No hand holding but some pointers/docs etc and I'll be good.

I'm now intrigued.

Thanks a lot and I look forward to hearing from you!

On Aug 2, 2011 8:41 PM, "Andreas Pieber" <anpieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Matt,
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 00:58, Matt Madhavan <mattmadhavan@gmail.com>
>> Hello,
>> I have seen couple of email threads on this topic. But did not really get
>> definitive answer.
>> Currently we do not use Karaf. We use Felix and other related bundles via
>> pax runner. I have seen recommendations about using Karaf. Why cannot I
>> just
>> start the Felix container in debug via mvn pax:provision and do a remote
>> debug? What do I get out of Karaf that I donot get from Felix and its
>> webconsole (started using pax web and jetty etc).
> A very good feature information is presented by http://karaf.apache.org/.
> While it depends on your needs I personally start any OSGi based toplevel
> (!) project without Karaf. The configuration support, features(.xml)
> support, the "fancy" command line, easy packaging, hotdeployment, remote
> access... All of them are feature you simply do not want to miss in your
> final server. It's not that you cant configure such a system from ground
> yourself. The question is rather: why would you want to do it? Projects
> geronimo, smx, talend, openengsb, (and many more) already proof that it is
> pretty easy to develop toplevel projects based on Karaf. My absolute
> favorite in the entire development tool-chain here is the "dev:watch *"
> command in Karaf which automatically reload snapshot bundles asap they are
> build by maven. Using this together with an on-file-changed mvn install
> script you'll get really (!) fast reload cycles. IMHO Karaf is definitely
> worth a look for every new OSGi project! If you're looking for more user
> reports here you may like to write directly to the karaf user list.
>> Also when using PaxExam (2.x.x), if I'm using the third type
>> my understanding is that:
>> 1. I cannot use Native Container
>> 2. And so I can only do remote debugging.
>> Please let me know if my understanding is OK!
> I can't give any qualified answer on that (still on pax-exam 1.x; shame on
> me), but for non-native container the "only-remote-debugging" thing is
> definitely true. Since the itests does not run in the same "container" as
> your unit-tests you'll have to work with the remote debugger.
> I hope this helps.
> Kind regards,
> Andreas
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Matt

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