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From Matt Madhavan <mattmadha...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Install Object as bundle
Date Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:22:12 GMT
HI Peter and Toni,
I (we) have benefited a lot from both the BND tool (primarily via Apache
felix bundle plugin) and PAX tools. Now that the development env is  in
early stages and going forward I should free up a lot. I'm planning to
contribute towards both PAX and BND.

One of the requirements my client has is that everything should run
seamlessly in IBM RAD and WAS. Past 3 months I have spent real lot of
valuable time in getting BND (Maven) and PAX based projects working inside
IBM env. Been a total nightmare, but am getting there.

Peter, do you know Jonathan Whittal? He is the one who got me started with
OSGi some 7/8 months ago!

Thanks
Matt


On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Peter Kriens <peter.kriens@aqute.biz>wrote:

> Hey, when you're at it ... I can use some bnd documenters!
>
> Kind regards,
>
>        Peter Kriens
>
> On 22 aug 2011, at 19:57, Matt Madhavan wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> > I have to admit though! The documentation could be whole lot better. But
> I
> > also have to admit to what  Peter said. We should all contribute.
> >
> > I did volunteer to Toni and Andreas that I would get involved in PAX
> > development. Just never had time to do it. Like Toni had suggested I may
> > start with PAX URL project first and work my way up from there.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Matt
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:54 AM, <john.dunlap@exceter.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> LOL Yeah, I totally walked into that one...
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Peter Kriens <peter.kriens@aqute.biz>:
> >>
> >> As this is open source you're now on the hook for documentation ... :-)
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>>       Peter Kriens
> >>>
> >>> On 22 aug 2011, at 16:47, john.dunlap@exceter.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'd like to apologize to anyone I may have offended with my  previous
> >>>> posts. Having reviewed a couple blog posts, PAX Exam  appears to be
> quite
> >>>> powerful.
> >>>>
> >>>> At the risk of sticking my foot in my mouth, yet again, the only
>  thing I
> >>>> can say in my defense is that the OPS4J documentation is  spotty at
> best and
> >>>> their confluence wiki is very broken(macro  errors) at the moment, so
> it's
> >>>> difficult, at least for me, to  figure out what each of the PAX tools
> do or
> >>>> how to use them(hence  the blog posts).
> >>>>
> >>>> -John
> >>>>
> >>>> Quoting john.dunlap@exceter.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Bother. That sounds eerily like the junit runner I'm half way through
> >>>>> writing...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quoting Achim Nierbeck <bcanhome@googlemail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> well, if you are in need of help, just ask :-) someone out there
will
> >>>>>> try to answer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Taking the example you choose here is a quick (very-quick) help
line
> >>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The @Configure method, it is used to configure your test
> environment.
> >>>>>> Pax Exam is meant as a "Integration"-Test toolkit for OSGi so
what
> you
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>> in this method is just barely configuring the run time environment
> of
> >>>>>> your
> >>>>>> bundle to test. After this setup where you also are able to
> >>>>>> configure different
> >>>>>> osgi containers like felix, equinox knopflerfish .... and  different
> >>>>>> versions.
> >>>>>> Your Unit test itself is turned into a Bundle that tests your
bundle
> >>>>>> in question.
> >>>>>> Just like a usual Unit-/Integration- Test would do :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope this makes this a bit clearer :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> regards, Achim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2011/8/21  <john.dunlap@exceter.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's fair. I guess I just don't understand what all the
other
> stuff
> >>>>>>> is.
> >>>>>>> Maybe I just haven't looked closely enough. Like I said
before, I
> >>>>>>> wasn't
> >>>>>>> trying to be offensive or dismissive in any way. It was
just my
> off
> >>>>>>> the cuff
> >>>>>>> impression.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Quoting Achim Nierbeck <bcanhome@googlemail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> interesting, since I only see "one" extra pax exam annotation,
> >>>>>>>> all others are of junit 4.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but this is just my 2 cents :-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 21.08.2011 04:18, schrieb john.dunlap@exceter.com:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/tonit/**Learn-PaxExam/blob/master/**
> >>>>>>>>> lesson-junit/src/test/java/**org/ops4j/pax/exam/lesson3/**
> >>>>>>>>> LessonTest.java<
> https://github.com/tonit/Learn-PaxExam/blob/master/lesson-junit/src/test/java/org/ops4j/pax/exam/lesson3/LessonTest.java
> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Quoting Toni Menzel <toni@okidokiteam.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can you be more specific ? Would love to simplify
(in your terms)
> >>>>>>>>>> ..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Toni
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <john.dunlap@exceter.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I will check it out. I mean no offense.
I just know that the
> last
> >>>>>>>>>>> time I
> >>>>>>>>>>> checked out Pax Exam the amount of annotations
required to run
> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> test made
> >>>>>>>>>>> my head hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Matt Madhavan <mattmadhavan@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ornate? Come on man, check it out. I have
designed the OSGi
> >>>>>>>>>>> development
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> standard for my client based on PAX
tools! Probably going to
> be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> One of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> largest OSGi project
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2011 8:40 PM, <john.dunlap@exceter.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip! I'll certainly
take a look at it but my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> general
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impression of OPS4J has been that
their stuff(while very
>  cool)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tends
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a little too "ornate" for
my taste.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Matt Madhavan <mattmadhavan@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OPS4J PAXTinyBundle Tool might be
a good option too!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2011 1:23 PM, <john.dunlap@exceter.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's quite a trick...
Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting chetan mehrotra
<chetan.mehrotra@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can also have look at
Karaf Spring deployer which
> creates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bundle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the fly for a give Spring config file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/***
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *karaf/trunk/deployer/spring/****<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**karaf/trunk/deployer/spring/**>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> src/main/java/org/apache/****karaf/deployer/spring/**
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> SpringTransformer.java?view=****markup<
> http://svn.apache.org/**
> >>>>>>>>>>>> viewvc/karaf/trunk/deployer/**spring/src/main/java/org/**
> >>>>>>>>>>>> apache/karaf/deployer/spring/**SpringTransformer.java?view=**
> >>>>>>>>>>>> markup<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/karaf/trunk/deployer/spring/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/deployer/spring/SpringTransformer.java?view=markup
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chetan Mehrotra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011
at 7:42 PM,  <
> john.dunlap@exceter.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh cool I was thinking
along the right track! I think  I
> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do what I need. Thanks for your
assistance!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Holger Hoffstätte
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <holger.hoffstaette@****googlema**il.com
<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://googlemail.com><
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holger.hoffstaette@**googlemai**l.com<
> http://googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <holger.hoffstaette@**googlemail.com<
> holger.hoffstaette@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19.08.2011 15:28,
john.dunlap@exceter.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's
exactly what I need to do. Do you have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't know
what your service does, but creating a
> bundle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on-the-fly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> quite easy (I was surprised how easy,
actually). I have  some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> code but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't post the
full version, so I put a sanitized
>  snippet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/Cqi7QMuJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (it does exactly
what I needed, but without a doubt
> Someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet will
find something Completely Wrong with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it..caveat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emptor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will create
a bundle with the same version/BSN
>  root
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "prototype"
Bundle that you pass in. Take care of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generating
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unique
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BSNs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The dynamically generated headers
can be anything you  want;
> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an empty bundle with no exports/imports/services/******
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activator
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left as exercise
for you. :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hth,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holger
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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