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From "Roy T. Fielding" <field...@gbiv.com>
Subject Re: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Karaf as a TLP
Date Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:12:07 GMT
On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:22 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> This isn't too important, but I have to admit that
>> 
>>> charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>> open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for
>>> creating enterprise servers
>> 
>> doesn't actually say anything meaningful to me because
>> it has too many happy market terms.
>> 
>> Would it be fair to summarize Karaf as
>> 
>> "an OSGI-based runtime container that allows various components
>> and applications to be dynamically deployed within a Java servlet
>> environment"
> 
> No.  There is no necessary connection between karaf and servlets or web servers or web
applications, and even with a more general definition of "server" I think this misses the
point.   I'm sorry you don't like our wording, but we tried a lot of variations and this is
really the best we could come up with, and to me it's quite specific and accurate.

There is no way that "creating enterprise servers" is either specific
or accurate, unless you have some special definition of BOTH enterprise
and server that I am not aware of.  It is incorrect use of terminology.

You can describe your technology any way you want, but I need to
know what the scope of the project will be in order to vote for the
resolution, and the above is what I could guess from reading the
website content.  I don't know what Karaf is capable of doing.
I just want to know how to distinguish it from what Apache Felix
and Apache Sling are already responsible for overseeing, and I know
for a fact that Sling is already "creating enterprise servers"
by at least one definition of that phrase.  Please be more specific.

....Roy


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